Saturday, December 11, 2010

700lb Woman Told To Go to the Zoo for a MRI


Doctors suggest Zoo MRI to 700lb Woman. I had an experience like this during my 400lb weight gain.....A doctor wanted to rule out a pituitary tumor, but I was unable to fit in the MRI machines or for the ones where I could fit [an open MRI out of state], being able to lay on my back and breathe was impossible. The endless rules about positions didn't help. I managed a CT scan of the abdomen for adrenal tumors on full blown oxygen and being allowed to sit up every few minutes to hack up a lung with my head elevated. But having the head down, nope not going to work, say goodbye to breathing from the fluids from my stomach coming up to the chest. The designers of this medical equipment you'd think they know better, that the sick and old have a long time laying flat? Look at the table in the picture, they couldn't have made it any skinnier if they tried.

I even once traveled three hundred miles to attempt an standing MRI where I ended up not fitting. Intubation for a test that could be positive or negative, also was considered too risky. When I was at a certain medical center in a big metro city, I got the zoo story too. The doctor told me "Well maybe you can go to the zoo for an MRI!" I said, "In my case, I fit I just cannot lay flat!". But wanting to find out more, I did contact a couple zoos, one I even got the director who runs the zoo MRI, only to be told "No way, the insurance would never cover that!". In our over-regulated society, rules often will be put above human lives. Why isn't there one extra large MRI for the severely obese? They can't afford one out of thousands of MRIs out there. Why was the standing MRI, where many conceivably would go being fat, only 21 inches wide [if the flat open one where you have to lie down is bigger?] The inventors are failing. Ironically when this article mentions "brain tumor" I wonder if they mean pituitary tumor. Even going deaf, I haven't been able to get a brain scan. The shortage of MRIs for large people in many places is not good... see here. Some hospitals are addressing it.

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  1. I had to have an MRI a few months back and it was horrendous. Not only was I squashed into the machine (my width at shoulder/arm level being more of a problem than anything) but I also get claustrophobic so being confined in that really small space with things on my face etc was not my idea of a good time. It was quite traumatic actually. I remember wondering what the hell do people bigger than me do when they need an MRI? At 300lb I am big but there are a lot of people bigger or differently shaped to me who wouldn't fit in that damn machine. And like you I wondered why the hell they didnt make the damn machine bigger to start with.

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  2. Sorry you faced that Bri, yes in my cse, I can't even lay flat and breathe. The doctors do ultrasounds on me for things normal people I suspect get MRIs. Knocking me out and intubating me isn't worth the extreme risk. It is traumatic, and claustrphobic. I do know of a standing MRI place if you ever want me to send you the info, I think they are spreading around, at 300lbs you probably would fit in it. I also think why do these inventors not think of these things, don't they understand many people cannot lay flat with their head locked into a cage thing. [I saw that fun device before but knew it would be impossible. Most super fat people go without MRIs, I never had the pituitary tumor outruled. Doctors even want me to get a brain scan, because I've lost so much hearing its just not happening. I think why don't they make all the stuff bigger to begin with all the time. All the inventors of this stuff must be ultra-thin people.

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  3. Not 'ultra-thin', but simply normal, healthy-sized people. Average weight for men is around 180lbs, and around 145lbs for women. Most MRI machines were designed and created before the obesity 'epidemic' became such a problem. MRI machines are built to cater for the average, I think technically they comfortably fit up to the 95th percentile (The 95th percentile, for women, in weight is 220lbs). Any more, and small people, be they sick, old, or children lose out from a scan as it loses accuracy.

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  4. I would suggest that the reason the equipment is thin is because technology is such that the bigger the equipment the less accurate the results. You just can't see what you need to see. Same holds true for chest xrays, dexa-scans, etc. The bigger the person the more blurry the images. It's not that skinny people are inventing these things, it's the technology isn't refined to deal with the morbidly obese population.

    Heck, when I was at 180 (5'5") the dexa scan tech was a friend of mine. She flat out told me that if I was thinner the results would have been crystal clear. They were readable, but nothing like what they could have been. Add 200# to that and what will you get?

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  5. Why not refine it for a rapidly growing morbidly obese populace? That is sad if 180 is to considered too large, isn't that the average weight of men even? Why is everything being designed for some very small group of very thin people? Sometimes I wonder about designers and inventors, even our electrical grids are based on the same problems we still had in the 1930s, poles, wires, and more where the electricity goes out everytime there is a little bit of wind. Maybe some of the priorities are off, or these designers often come from an "elite" upper class world where people are often smaller? I don't get it.

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  6. Why should an investor spend $2M on a machine that isn't necessary for the majority of people? Most doctor's don't even like the quality of a regular open mri. That would be a poor business decision, and we are in a free market society. I'm sure if we had universal healthcare, the government would find a way to scan the obese, but nooooooo....No one will vote for government run healthcare. I sympathize with you, but until "health" isn't a for-profit issue, nothing will change

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  7. Why should it cost 2 million?

    That said why not a few of them country wide? I traveled 300 miles once to a stand up.

    If they can waste 700 million dollars having an experimental plane crash into the ocean, they can save a few fat people's lives, when fat people are starting to outnumber the thin ones.

    The universal healthcare, sounds good on front but is more about the enrichment of insurance companies rather then improved health care, kind of like how in many states you are forced to buy car insurance now there will be forced health insurance.

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-signs-that-the-health-care-industry-has-become-all-about-making-as-much-money-as-possible

    Read this, I agree with this guy...

    The greed of the for profit on one side is destroying health care, and well remember the corporations are married to the govt now, in the synthetic "Third way" economics but think about that...


    Health care never should have got so expensive to begin with.

    By the way they will be making GOBS of money off a fattened up populace.

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  8. Why not lose weight? What a nightmare!!!!

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    1. Well lets see some of us have diseases like hypothyroidism, pcos, cushings or took medications like birth control, steriods, or anti-depressants that has caused the weight gain. Most of the time even with treatment it almost impossible to lose the weight you have gained. A lot of the time its not from overeating and laziness.

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    2. Well lets see some of us have diseases like hypothyroidism, pcos, cushings or took medications like birth control, steriods, or anti-depressants that has caused the weight gain. Most of the time even with treatment it almost impossible to lose the weight you have gained. A lot of the time its not from overeating and laziness.

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  9. Because not everyone can lose weight, their bodies don't work the same. I spent months puking my guts up, hate the sight of food, only eat nowadays when I am about to pass out from diabetes and still am hugely fat!

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    1. hey i get that alot your fat diet but i dont eat much like the last coment i only eat when i feel dizzy enough to pass out from it i hate looking at food never mind eating it but because im obese dont you love that word because im obese i eat alot is all i get constantly eat less move more my doctor told me i feel like screaming my body just stores fat even if i eat a lemon or look at one ill gain weight idiots there has been times ive not had much at all like i had a tuna lettuce and tomatoe on brie bread that was it and a few cups of tea without sugar and low fat milk that was all i had you tell me why im gaining and the best i get is your bodys in starvation mode because your not eating write wtf cant win

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  10. Yeah, I know it's a bad scene. Actually I fear gaining when I eat too little. Ie when there is a food insecure week...:0 Some probably would find that insane, but remember there is less fruits and vegetables, etc at that time. So yeah I believe you definitely.

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  11. Actually, the vast, vast majority of those overweight who say they eat right actually don't. When monitored, they actually consume much more than their proper daily amount.

    There are some rare medical conditions that can cause you to gain more weight than other people, but that weight is extremely small compared to what people in fat-acceptance movements are claiming. For instance, the oft-cited "thyroid condition makes me fat" argument is nonsense, because thyroid conditions only cause you gain about 10% more bodyfat than you normally would AT A MAXIMUM.

    Additionally, for the vast, vast majority of people (statistically, you included, Five Hundred), calories in/calories out is a real thing. Your body will gain fat if it doesn't use the calories that you consume. If you use more calories than you consume, you will lose fat.

    Count calories and make sure you're getting all the proper amounts of nutrients per day.

    I used to be quite overweight (250lbs, 5'10"). Everyone in my family is overweight besides me, with the exception of my mother since I convinced her to eat right and exercise. Now I'm 170lbs and fairly muscular, with a healthy BMI and only 15% body fat. It was very difficult at first. It actually is very much like quitting smoking, in that the urge to smoke (i.e. eat) is very strong. What you have to do is count calories, stop buying bad foods, and make sure you're eating about 500cal below your maintenance.

    Almost nobody is as overweight as you are. You're morbidly obese. You have so much extra fat that you literally can barely breathe, and can't even breathe at all in some cases. You had to be taken to a zoo because no human should rightfully be alive with this kind of harm done to their bodies.

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    1. Um I've had hypothyroidism since I was 12 years old. Been on medication since then. Been big since I was 8, pretty sure thats when my thyroid went bad. Then lost my insurance for 10 years so wasn't able to go to the dr to get my thyroid medication, so you guessed it I gained a lot of weight. So yes your thyroid can make you obese if you can't get the medication, or your dr doesn't diagnose it right off. I dont have diabetes, high cholesterol, or heart disease. I'm healthy other than my thyroid. So try to tell someone who hasn't had the disease for 25+ years your bull crap.

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  12. How do you know what fat people eat?

    And if everyone just calls them a liar from the start how does that work?

    I don't see thin people eating all proper amounts. In fact my jaw drops watching all these skinny people buying this total crap, and even if they only ate one meal a day, I don't know why they aren't all sick.

    They say the amount people gain is small but it's not. Why did I stop gaining weight when my thyroid returned to a normal level? How come my hyperthyroid sister become almost anorexic looking, but if a hypothyroid gets fat, its all their fault?

    Hey put me in the lab tomorrow to measure the metabolism. I'd sign right up.

    That is total BS about thyroid conditions making people only gain 10% of the weight. I guess fat discrimination rears its ugly head there too. I know THIN people who gained 100lbs from thyroid. YEARS OF LIVING NORMAL AS A THIN PERSON then BAM! and this 140lb woman who went up to 350lbs from a pituitary tumor.

    I call total bull on that one given what I experienced first hand.

    Calories in and Calories out is absolute nonsense.

    http://fivehundredpoundpeeps.blogspot.com/2013/03/but-i-thought-calories-were-making-us.html

    http://fivehundredpoundpeeps.blogspot.com/2012/11/are-calories-themselves-myth.html

    The American population is getting fatter, you tell me everyone woke up one day and decided to become lazier and sicker, they are doing crap to the food and the endocrine systems are being AFFECTED. I have dozens of articles talking about this.

    I've lost 200lbs since the peak weight sure Im still hugely fat but I DID NOT DIET.

    It was mostly medical care. I know if the Spiro gets taken away, BAM the weight will jack up to the skies, same for any water weight and more.

    Calories are a lie.

    I don't believe the official story about 9-11 and I don't buy it about calories either! [One thing some people know how propagandized this system is and see through "the matrix" so to speak and the brainwashing is rife when it comes to obesity, calories and the diet industrial complex. So many making millions and billions off us!

    How do you know I don't count calories? I counted them for years. Every fat person has.

    And what should people who face more hunger do about it?

    Your stupid diets are failing. I have to drive 30 miles just to get some food that is edible at a health food store The grocery stores are so full of MSG laden crap, I wrote one a complaint letter recently stop imposing the bad lower common denominator food and tastes on me!

    So you were moderately overweight and successfully lost some? Good. keep it off. Practice WEIGHT PREVENTION now for the rest of your life. I am glad your body works properly. I wish mine did. There is far more going on then fat.

    You tell me I am morbidly obese like its a mystery to me.. LOL YEAH I'M FAT. I am probably the FATTEST woman in my entire town! I only have written a blog for three years about it.

    Already you are lost, thinking anyone would choose to be fat.

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    1. "calories are a lie...."

      its very basic science, actually.
      I'm going to go ahead and assume that you don't exercise either.

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    2. Hey keep repeating the mantras like a parrot.

      How do you know if I exercise or not? I used to walk for miles when I had the weight gain. That was the most insidious thing about it, I loved to walk and 2-3 miles was nothing.

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    3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1454084

      Science disagrees with you.

      On the MRI size: they are astronomically expensive. The cost is exponentially related to the size, ie, doubling the size quadruples or more the cost.
      Is it worth spending money on the obese, when you could spend it on children, or mens' health, which is vastly underfunded?

      >And what should people who face more hunger do about it?

      The only lucid thing you've said.

      It's a choice of "behave like a dog and reward yourself with food" or "be healthy and attractive"

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    4. Why are the MRIS so expensive. Let's break this down.

      They seem to have no problem buying jets and tanks to take over the streets of America.

      The children and men are getting fatter and soon won't fit in the MRIS.

      You do realize I believe the American people are being fattened up via things in the food and destruction of our endocrine systems. You need to read more of this blog.

      You think all thin people never eat? I sure see a lot of them eating at restaurants and buying groceries.

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    5. Tell me what you eat skinny guy. I mean I already wrote what I did. Do you only eat every three days? What story you going to tell me?

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    6. "You need to read more of this blog"

      You realize that backing yourself up with stuff you said is logically fallacious right?

      It's your credibility that's being questioned. Quoting your own blog to defend your credibility makes no sense.

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    7. This blog contains research studies and links to other websites.

      Who asked you to prove my credibility? And why'd you self appoint yourself to the job?

      Good thing I ignored people like you when I almost died at the peak weight.

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    8. Try Dr. Fuhrmans Eat To Live
      It is awesome!

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  13. How many calories do you eat in a typical day?
    Snacks and all, mind.

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    1. It's on here. I wrote an entire article about it.

      Yeah I listed the food.

      You can look for it.

      Since then I went off the gluten-free diet.

      Are you going to tell me "I am thin and eat only once every two days"?

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  14. Why should a hospital divert money to an extra large machine simply because you choose to eat too much and exercise too little.

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  15. Why should a hospital divert money towards oxygen for the smoker who chain smoked or the guy who refused to wear a helmet?

    Who chooses to eat too much?

    I am curious why do you see that as a choice?

    I didn't choose for the lungs to go either when I was 20 before the severe weight came.

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    1. >Why should a hospital divert money towards oxygen for the smoker who chain smoked or the guy who refused to wear a helmet?

      Oxygen is cheap. Accidents happen. Obesity is a choice.

      I do not think we should invest heavily into treating smokers, alcoholics or heroin addicts, aside from rehabilitation programs.

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  16. People do not choose obesity. I mean you think someone wakes up and says WOW I want to be fat. I mean why do you believe something that stupid and insane. So why do the drug addicts get rehab programs and the fat do not. [even for the fat people with food addiction problems]

    No people don't choose to be fat. I knew from the get-go I was handed a crap body that never worked right, and I exercised like mad as a kid with 2 to 3 miles a day on my bike to deliver newspapers and still was FAT.

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  17. Did you know that people are being paid by our govt. to troll blogs and forums to tout the party line? It's good work, if you can get it. lol I saw a documentary about it awhile back because some of them were feeling a need to confess their sins publicly. One of their favorite come-back lines is to tell the commentator that their argument is a "logical fallacy". I've seen that quite a bit in other health-related sites as well. - chakradancer

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  18. All I see is a bunch of fatties who can't stop enjoying the privileges of the first world defending what they are.

    If genes are the be all to end all in regards to weight gain and weight loss why aren't there genetically fat people in Africa? How has that entire continent avoided thyroid problems? Geez, they sure have some lucky genetics. They should stop rubbing their thin privilege in our fat western faces. We can't help being too unable to stop glutting ourselves on processed slop and using scooters instead of our legs.

    But then, why are there so many skinny Cambodians? Most of them are unable to walk thanks to mine related accidents, shouldn't they be fat like us. It must be genetics again.

    Oh, the plight and hardships of the first world. MRI machines are another sign of how unlucky we all are.

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  19. http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php/features/science/137134-30-nigerians-are-obese-says-report

    Nigerians are fatter then Ethiopians.

    You trying to tell me there is no genetic obesity in Africa HA!

    Can you please try having me avoid the nausea of a the "first world problems" meme, that the globalists love to have useful idiots use, so they can support agendas to have even more serfs to work for pennies in their megacorporate plantations? Hmm more help for the bankers, to hide more money in Swiss Bank accounts supposedly headed to "help" the third world.

    Even there, your vision of Africa as everyone being people who live in huts and all live just on millet is false, and more of the brainwashing. Please go look up pictures of African cities, and other places, the modern world is there too, and they will one day deliver the same crap GMO food, we got going. African governments are even requiring ID cards.

    You never heard of untreated goiters?

    Why do you think every African is thin?

    To assuage your liberal guilt, I guess you can go live in a hut somewhere in the bush and get really thin to prove how special you are.

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  20. https://www.google.com/search?q=Modern+african+cities&client=opera&hs=1Fq&rls=en&channel=suggest&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=UFubUs2CNMbpoATDioL4Cw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1247&bih=771

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  21. Regarding the diameter of MRI machines:

    The new MRI, like the existing 7-Tesla models, will have an internal bore of about 60 centimeters, or just under 2 feet, once the final electronics and shielding materials are added. That should accommodate most of the population, a factor he said was critical in its design. Each centimeter increase in the machine’s size adds millions of dollars to the price.

    This from an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune regarding the installation of an extra-powerful MRI for brain imaging, but the principle holds for all machines

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  22. http://www.auntminnie.com/index.aspx?sec=ser&sub=def&pag=dis&ItemID=82543

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