Actually 17-20 an hour is really good. Most are making even less around here under 10 dollars an hour, but this does show how life has really changed. If you ever get a chance look at a magazine from the 1980s, it will blow your mind bringing back to mind just the knickknacks and things people spent their money on back then, the expendable income levels were far higher. The prices have gone far higher then the wages have. Globalism is a failure.