I was interested to see that they are writing about some of the findings.
"What is the PPNBI Related to for the ACON?
ACONS who took the parental narcissism scale also completed some scales about themselves.
Here are some of our findings:
- Higher scores on parental narcissism (PPNBI) were positively associated with ACONs feeling depressed as a teen and also with feeling depressed within the last year.
- Higher scores on parental narcissism (PPNBI) were negatively associated with feelings of well-being as a teen and with feelings of well-being in the last year.
- ACONS with higher scores on the parental narcissism scale were more likely to indicate you don’t trust other people, in general."
They needed a study for that?
ReplyDeleteI thought the same thing....I found myself thinking AND WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS STUDY?
DeleteI read the "study". What a bunch of crap! No surprise they didn't ask my blog to participate. I would have told them to shove their clipboards up their assess.
ReplyDeleteI was disturbed by the "results". I don't even get what they are studying...the OBVIOUS? Short on time yesterday I didn't say much about this yet. I kind of threw the link up. I wasn't asked to participate but my blog covers so many subjects I can see why I was overlooked but yours not being asked is very fishy to me.
DeleteI'm not surprised they didn't ask us. We don't blindly follow authority and I mock the so-called professionals. I think they hit up "Acons" who willingly hand their power over and blindly believe everything they read under the Psychology Today banner.
DeleteIt worries me. I don't judge those who took it, without closer examination, it is disturbing that in today's world one always has to be on guard and there are so many waiting to trip us up. I've had enough problems dealing with the "heal and identify with the narcissists crowd".
DeleteI heard about that study but choose not to participated. I was suspicious that she was too detached and was up to no good for some reasons. I saw pictures of her in her graduate school's website. She does not look give me vibes that she is a daughter of a narcissistic parent or two.
ReplyDeleteWhat is she doing to us? I hope you guys will expose her before she gets a job and start calling herself as an expert on narcissism. Maybe you could file a complaint against her with deans and president of her college or something. Just ruin her reputation until somebody stop her in her tracks. I don't know. Maybe we virtually crash her college building or something.
"Miss Anonymous" Lol
If she is not an ACON herself, then I am bothered by the whole study. Some may say but a scientist doesn't have to be schizophrenic to study it, but here, I think it needs to be someone to know how narcissism works. I'm not into doing anything like that but I wonder if the academic advisor will say BUT WHAT IS YOUR THESIS?
DeleteI wonder if she is an ACON too. I hope it is a real study but there are a lot of people burning ACONS out there, a lot of them. :(
ReplyDeleteFor a long while I have been deriding the clumsy attempts by academics and so-called professionals who "study" ACONs for their own gain. How many so-called therapists, life coaches, psychiatrists and counsellors now specialize in narcissistic abuse? Answer: too many to count. And these frauds have never even met a narcissist. They poached all the info from ACON blogs yet believe they are the experts who should develop a parental narc index rating system?! Here's my familial narc rating system: I was raised in a war zone and I am traumatized for life.
ReplyDeleteIt's true too there's a lot of them out there. I was too naïve regarding this study and will admit it. Sometimes my brain is full of too many things and they can wiggle by that way. At the time the study came out, I was busy kicking real life narcs out of my life.
DeleteThe ones who are ACONs usually are far better but are few and far between. I fear some of them have never dealt with a narcissist and the ones who see them as cute and cuddly who need our understanding, are dangerous. An index rating system bugs me. I didn't know that is what the study intended for when reading it at first glance. So if your narc mother only slaps you around and locks you in your room and doesn't take you to the doctor, it gets a lower rating then if you have some bones broken and you outdo the guy from the "Child Called It"? Do they plan for the index to be used? I never heard of pyschologists having a general measuring system for garden variety child abuse. I never saw a measuring stick for how many slaps you got or bruises or threats. So why do the narcs get one for their victims? I guess I am confused. All I know is my life was nearly destroyed and I almost died in my late 20s and was disabled for life and today I basically have no family. I was diagnosed with PTSD and suffering in a myriad of ways that NO ONE is going to be able to put a NUMBER on.
I wonder how they measure the stuff that never happened? For example, a lifetime of gaslighting.
DeleteI guess that's why they named it the "Perceived" Parental Narcissist Behavior Index.
According to these researches, the abuse isn't even a factor in the study. It's about the narcissist parent's "behavior." Ooops, I meant "perceived" behavior.
The whole thing makes me sick.
Let's see if this makes it up....
DeleteI went and ASKED:
Peep Peeping Your comment is awaiting moderation.
August 23, 2015 at 1:03 pm
I am curious why the term “Perceived” was used for the Index. Please be mindful that for ACONS many are told that their “perceptions” are wrong as we are gaslighted by our abusers. In fact this one message I got from my narcissistic mother that I was just “perceiving” things wrong. Why not call it an abuse Index without that word added to it? I don’t know if this was intended but it denotes a stance of “disbelief” towards the ACON.
“Perceived Parental Narcissistic Behavior Index (PPNBI).”
I would also like to know if either researcher herself is an ACON?
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https://theinvisiblescar.wordpress.com/2015/08/18/acons-speak-out-the-highlights-of-a-recent-study-about-parental-narcissism/comment-page-1/#comment-1467
Oh by the way, the word "perception" is her way of invalidating us ACONs and insulting our experiences with abuses in the past and most of our experience in recovering and healing after we went NC, or for those who are still taking step-wise legal actions against their narcissistic parent and/or ex-spouse in order to get out of abusive situations, to protect themselves and their children. I hope somebody from ACON community will write a letter to Valerie Cole's advisers, dean of program, and president of the college. We don't want our future therapists, social workers, pastors, and people in helping position to invalidate and gaslight us. We sure don't want more narcs in these fields. I hope we could speak up anonymously so we will not have to deal with narcs and their enablers. Grrrrr
ReplyDeleteShe may be a young college student who is not an ACON and who has never been a victim of gaslighting and does not know how gaslighters used the word perception to seek to destroy us in telling us all of our perceptions were wrong. Other reporters are not told they are perceiving but just giving the facts. Maybe I will write her and ask her about the choice of the word. I will tell her using the word perceived implies that ACONs are lying whether she intended this or not. I don't have her email though.
DeleteThis is some notes I have about words. Words are for communication from one person to another. The narc uses words for perversion, misuse it, to debase it, distort. When it distorts it fends off understanding.
ReplyDeleteWell lots of reason I have learned that words are for direct and exact communication, must not ever be relied on for the other to make assumptions. Any distortions mean that there is no commitment to those words. Thus I think because she uses words that are too vague, as in "perceive" the whole thing becomes distorted, ACONs are being exploited, gaslighted, and this is to make money and gain attention.
I don't think I perceived anything while I was growing up. I have emotional scars I have to live with for the rest of my life, I have narcs I have to deal with continually, I have to learn this stuff in order to even survive. I don't need distortions. She is dangerous.
I went and asked why that word was chosen. We will be able to tell where they are coming from given the response. I agree about words being direct. When I find my mind wondering too much trying to figure out what exactly they are trying to tell me, it is a red flag. I think ACONS are being exploited too. I don't want to be told I am perceiving anything either. It is odd to me they don't realize how that word has been abused for ACONs all over the place, and how it was used as a hammer on our heads. Nothing could be worked out with my narc mother and other narc relatives because they invalidated all my emotions and voice and told me my perceptions were wrong.
Delete"Other reporters are not told they are perceiving but just giving the facts."
ReplyDeleteSo true, Peep. Apparently the study is not based on facts but perceptions that can ultimately be judged by a higher authority to determine if they are right or wrong. Once again, the power resides in others to decide the level of narcissism in the parent, or if the parent even presents as a narcissist. Hey, maybe it's all in the head of the person who ends up in therapy - the victim of gaslighiting.
We all know our narc parents believe and act like nothing happened. Afterall, they are perfect. The study appears to protect them.
Yes that is what I would like to know why our reportings are even under the PERCEPTION umbrella. Other victims are believed. I am going to go see if my comment was posted now, and if that question and point was answered. So many of us are in the fog not being believed. I remember being very young and thinking something very serious was wrong with my mother but being told something was wrong with me instead. I realize now my sister and mother's inability to love and have feelings are way beyond the pale, so why are they believed and ACONs are told they have "perceptions"?
DeleteHere is an advertisement Valerie Coles posted, just in case you need this for your complaint:
ReplyDelete"IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR ACONS/POSSIBLE CASH PRIZE!
Dr. Jennifer Monahan and Ph.D Candidate Valerie Berenice Coles of The University of Georgia’s Department of Communication Studies is conducting a survey about parental narcissism. All ACONs (Adult Children of Narcissists) are eligible to participate in the survey.
If you participate, you will partake in questionnaire that asks about your parent’s communication style and some items that measure personality characteristics of your parent or legal guardian that they identify as a narcissist and themselves. The aim is to examine how parental communication impacts individuals once they become adults. There is presently no published scale that measures parental narcissism behaviors from the perspective of the adult child, and very little research in general.
Anyone over the age of 18 who identifies as an ACON is eligible for this study, it does not matter where you live in the world, your gender, or whether English is your first-language.
Here’s what’s in it for you (besides helping in an important and needed study).
You may enter a drawing for one of ten $100 gift cards for participating. You will only be asked for about 30 minutes of your time, possibly only 20 minutes. I have been assured that all information will be confidential, names and other identifying markers (e.g., IP addresses) will not be linked to the questionnaire you complete.
Participants who are interested in the drawing should enter an email address into the drawing. Only those who win the drawing will be asked to provide their name and address so the gift card can be mailed to them. Drawings for a $100 gift card will occur one week after the last enrolled participant has had the opportunity to complete the survey.
The survey link is here: https://ugeorgia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_bpUcPJ3CkaLjOPb "
Ah yes I thought the study had to do with the N parent's communication style. Not a perceived behavior index. I don't find the drawing offensive, as many research studies offer these compensations though of course with 2,000 or so participants your odds are lower in receiving it.
DeleteI'm more worried about the wording and when I read it I though they were going to study the communication style of narcissistic parents. Color me confused still.
DeleteEthics in research, according to APA.org website:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.apa.org/ethics/code/index.aspx#807
"8.07 Deception in Research
(a) Psychologists do not conduct a study involving deception unless they have determined that the use of deceptive techniques is justified by the study's significant prospective scientific, educational or applied value and that effective nondeceptive alternative procedures are not feasible.
(b) Psychologists do not deceive prospective participants about research that is reasonably expected to cause physical pain or severe emotional distress.
(c) Psychologists explain any deception that is an integral feature of the design and conduct of an experiment to participants as early as is feasible, preferably at the conclusion of their participation, but no later than at the conclusion of the data collection, and permit participants to withdraw their data. (See also Standard 8.08, Debriefing.)
8.08 Debriefing
(a) Psychologists provide a prompt opportunity for participants to obtain appropriate information about the nature, results, and conclusions of the research, and they take reasonable steps to correct any misconceptions that participants may have of which the psychologists are aware.
(b) If scientific or humane values justify delaying or withholding this information, psychologists take reasonable measures to reduce the risk of harm.
(c) When psychologists become aware that research procedures have harmed a participant, they take reasonable steps to minimize the harm."
2. Avoidance of Deceptive Statement:
http://www.apa.org/ethics/code/index.aspx?item=8#501a
"5.01 Avoidance of False or Deceptive Statements
(a) Public statements include but are not limited to paid or unpaid advertising, product endorsements, grant applications, licensing applications, other credentialing applications, brochures, printed matter, directory listings, personal resumes or curricula vitae or comments for use in media such as print or electronic transmission, statements in legal proceedings, lectures and public oral presentations and published materials. Psychologists do not knowingly make public statements that are false, deceptive or fraudulent concerning their research, practice or other work activities or those of persons or organizations with which they are affiliated.
(b) Psychologists do not make false, deceptive or fraudulent statements concerning (1) their training, experience or competence; (2) their academic degrees; (3) their credentials; (4) their institutional or association affiliations; (5) their services; (6) the scientific or clinical basis for or results or degree of success of, their services; (7) their fees; or (8) their publications or research findings.
(c) Psychologists claim degrees as credentials for their health services only if those degrees (1) were earned from a regionally accredited educational institution or (2) were the basis for psychology licensure by the state in which they practice."
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ReplyDeleteA draw of 10 gift cards for 1,236 participants?
ReplyDeleteI wonder what the $100 gift card was for. Credit towards anti-anxiety meds?
Peep, maybe they are trying to figure out a way to answer your question without answering your question. You know, like politicians.
Lisette here was the response I got:
DeleteVeronica Jarski | The Invisible Scar August 24, 2015 at 8:43 am
Peep,
Valerie Coles replied to this question in an email: “The term ‘perceived’ is used since we are operating out of an academic lens and objectively we are testing perceived narcissism. The only way to not include perceived and have the scale go anywhere to be of use is to test the narcissistic parent directly and then the entire point of the study (assessing narcissism from the child’s perceptive) is eliminated.”
I’ll add this to the Editor’s Note at top since your concern may be a common one regarding this wording.
Also, yes, one of the researcher is an ACoN.
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
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vcoles August 24, 2015 at 12:06 pm
Hi Peep,
Thank you for your comment! You raise a valid question. In addition to the email I sent to Veronica discussing the purpose of using the term “perception” in an academic lens I would like to add:
People often challenge us when we say a parent is an alcoholic or a narcissist. They might say “When did you become a psychologist?” In response to that we called the scale the perceived narcissism scale so it was clear that this is the perception of the adult child. That may be that the parent hasn’t been officially deemed a narcissist by a psychologist or a psychiatrist but the ACON sees narcissistic behaviors and believes the parent is a narcissist (again, this does not mean that the parent is not an actual narcissist). It truly didn’t dawn on us until we read your comments that the use of “perceived” could have been taken in a way that invalidated your experiences. Its pretty clear in hindsight and we apologize.
I hope this helps clarify our decision.
Best,
Valerie
How would we get a Narcissist diagnosed "officially?" Not one of them would ever step foot in a therapist's office in a million years.
DeleteThanks for listening to my question. I am glad you thought about it.
DeleteOne problem for ACONs and you kind of sum it up here is "how do you know your parent is a narcissist?" To be honest no narcissist is going to step foot in a therapist's office so how does an ACON prove the problem? While I had some good therapists many do not believe us nor the effects of narcissistic abuse, they tell ACONs to reconcile with full blown narcissists and sociopaths. Unless a malignant narc breaks the law and gets caught and gets a court ordered psychologist test, there is never going to be an "official diagnosis" for most ACONs regarding their narcissistic or sociopathic parents. I am glad you have considered the effects of the word "Perceived."
Maybe in the study world there is no solution for this given the rules. Narcissists operate in darkness and it is the rare one that darkens the doorsteps of psychologists and therapists. This may be one reason so little is known about them. It is something ACONs face.
Thanks for listening to my concerns.
I also posted this: We have to be careful especially in a world for ACONS where the narcissists are given the benefit of the doubt.
DeleteLisette what happened to your blog? :(
ReplyDeleteLisette, I love your blog and hope you will get it back. I hope narcs did not succeed in closing down your blog. You are a great writer and an advocate for real AcONs who are still struggling.
DeleteI can't find it either, and I need that blog. :(
DeleteI hope your blog is okay too. I may have erred not posting anonymously but it wasn't allowed there. The name that shows up is not the name of the blog.
DeleteI also thought my email was private.
DeleteI first discovered it was down when somebody used the search term "house of mirrors blog is gone" in my stats. And sure enough, looks like it's been pulled and can't be re-posted. I hope you kept an XML backup. :{ Then it can live again in another form.
DeleteSome of Lisette's posts can still be found in the Wayback Machine.
DeleteI also noticed her book on Wattpad is gone.
DeleteIt was just a technical thing. It's back up.
DeletePeep, thank you for approaching those researchers. It sounds like they are saying only psychologists etc. are qualified to determine whether our parents are narcissists, not their children who have been observing their behavior for decades. I figured as much. And If one of those researchers truly is a ACON they would be sensitive to the word perceived. I'm not buying what they're selling.
I am glad your blog is back up. Is your other site okay too?
DeleteThey say they are bound by that "rule", maybe, but it still bothers me. What is an ACON to do then? No ACON is going to be able to get an official diagnosis for a parent, unless they have a rare narc that gets caught at something and forced into court ordered psychological exams. I am glad I told them that. I did find it all strange but glad I got it out there. I know I will be more careful regarding ACON studies!
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DeleteYes, everything is okay. Thanks for asking.
DeleteI guess it's confirmed. The study is officially useless. What's the point of gathering info from ACONs about our narc parents' behavior if our "perceptions" are irrelevant in terms of their narcissism. I think they were researching us on the sly for treatment purposes. After all, we're the ones who end up in therapy. Once again, it's the victim of narcs that become the identified patient.
I spot a massive error in the study too. And it's this:
"ACONS with higher scores on the parental narcissism scale were more likely to indicate you don’t trust other people, in general."
This is false, but I will speak for myself. I was brainwashed to doubt my own perceptions. In fact, it was beaten into me psychologically and sometimes physically that it didn't matter what I think or what I feel. Indeed speaking-up and defending myself and expressing feelings was dangerous. My narcissist parents drilled into me "you DON'T matter." So I went through life thinking my perceptions were wrong and believing I didn't have the right to defend myself. After all, I don't matter. Other people matter. That meant I put my "trust" of what I think, feel and believe in others. That's why ACONs are the easiest dupes for narcs. We have been trained and brainwashed by them for them. Someone degrades me, I tell myself "you're too sensitive." Someone hurts me, I don't defend myself because "I don't matter." When you go though life without boundaries and thinking you have no right to humane treatment that means you trust others more than yourself. I was raised by the N cult to go out into the world and trust others without question and that mind-set exposed me to a lifetime of abuse. Why do so many of us end up married to PDs? Because we put our trust into scumbags that people from normal families would run like hell from.
After decades of abuse do I generally not trust other people? Of course. But if I was asked to complete the questionnaire in my 20's I would have answered I trust people... because I did. My motto was automatically trust others until they prove 100,000 times that they can't be trusted. Thanks mom and dad and psycho sister.
In healthy families children are taught discernment and caution. I had none of that. It's amazing what the narcs did to my head. But I adapted to my environment to survive. So, if these researches want to get to the nitty gritty of the ACON experience they should conclude that "perceptions" are a big deal with ACONs and many of us are brainwashed in the N cult to trust others implicitly. The lack of trust later in life comes from decades of trying to get blood out of a stone. In other words, putting our trust in assholes like our parents and siblings.
Also, what really irks me is how they patted themselves on the back for giving ACONs a "perceived" opportunity to "speak out." Gag me! No pun intended. I guess those researchers "perceive" themselves as ACON saviors. My official diagnosis is they are grandiose and delusional with entitlement issues.
OM gosh, I so wanted to say that from the beginning of this whole thing. I'm so new its hard for me to just do that. But I know that I placed all my trust in others and none in myself. That's why I'm prey, and I still am prey till I can get a hold of reality and it sinks right in. If I never trusted others, I wouldn't have a problem, and my life would have been A-OK.
DeleteOh, I'm so glad to have that acknowledged, and I totally agree.
Lisette,
DeleteThank you for warning us about the reason for their research project. I was suspicious about that research project because the language of the advertisement was too detached and cold. As an adopted child of a narc social worker, I saw so many horrors in the world of Psychology, counseling, and social services fields.
I have been suspicious that narcs are involved in this research project and chose not to participate. I feel bad for vulnerable AcONs who participated thinking Valerie and her colleagues would help them with their research project. I think the idea of them making a treatment plan for AcONs instead of narc parents is a scary stuff. Based on my experiences with adopted narc mother who was a social worker, I am suspicious that narcs want us to get some involuntary treatment plan or some treatment plan for us to stop our NC and come back to our narc parents, meet narc supplies for narcs who are angry with us for cutting off their supplies, and for narcs who cheated and abused others in order to get money and get on the top.
These researchers are not saviors for ACoNs. Ho ho ho. They are too detached and too "professional." I could say a lot more! I could bet you for a dollar that narcs are paying grant money for this research project. >:(
Joan, you summed up perfectly what took me paragraphs to get out - "I know I placed all my trust in others and none in myself." That's exactly what gaslighting does to us.
DeleteAnonymous, I don't know for sure the reasons behind the research study, but I have my suspicions. I know the so-called mental health professionals have been observing us for a long time. Most of them learn about parental narcissism through our blogs, rip off our content and then present themselves as the experts. If they are the experts, and the only ones qualified to diagnose narcissists, why is it that ACONs are the people who made this information available? I'm referring to people like Kathy Krajco, Anna V and Joanna Ashmun. None of the therapists I went to 15 years ago told me about NPD. I learned about NPD online from other ACONs. Now every therapist claims to specialize in narc abuse because they see how many ACONs are out there (potential clients). I believe the so-called mental health professionals would have kept this info underground for as long as they could. They kind of still are trying to keep it underground.
I could say a lot more too.
Yes it does, the total invalidation and gaslighting teaches us not to trust our own feelings. I am learning to trust mine more and more. I wrote about how all the therapists told me to reconcile, even the ones who admitted I was "severely emotionally abused" and otherwise. This still boggles my mind. Why didn't any tell me to get the hell away from a sociopath who was busy backstabbing me and destroying my health? As you know, I believe honest discussion of narcissism and sociopathy is NOT being allowed in this society regarding the powers that be, because we are ruled by sociopaths. Let's just call a spade a spade. While we had honest lights in the darkness like Kathy Krajco, Anna V and others, there are those out there who seem to just want to muddy the waters. I don't know enough about these researchers to know the true intentions and rest but I have seen enough like with that one blog, I had to leave behind where caution should be the rule. The therapy world as a whole failed us massively and I believe that most people aren't being warned about NPD or sociopathy especially in parental relationships. There is too much protection of the narcs out there. It scares me how in society they seem to get all the protections....
DeleteI am not talking about these researchers in particular when I write this, but I find myself wondering at times if the psychology world is planning an official condemnation of the ACON movement. It just makes me wonder. The Aspie world has it's controversies with the parents who want to make NTs of Aspies, maybe there are circles listening more to the "estranged parent set" who will claim victimhood in being named narcissists. .
DeleteI had been in therapy since I was 18 years old. Nothing they did worked. Now I'm learning stuff that is making me better. I like to play soduku and I would get lost and confused. I picked it up again just yesterday, and I am getting every game.
DeleteI remember the wild eyed look I used to get from therapists and I swear, some of them had to know the truth about me, but the truth was too scary, I guess. So on and on they would try their "treatment".
So I awakened to the truth that my mother was an engulfing sociopath, and this is my "official diagnosis". Don't tell anyone that, it is unbelievable, but it is the truth. And now I"m getting better, my concentration is so much better. You can't tell me this isn't the truth, it is.
I was in therapy on and off for years too. To this day I ask myself why didn't anyone tell me about NPD or sociopathy, they were protecting my mother, even indirectly. I even had years of anxiety and panic attacks, I barely kept controlled which is related to Aspergers but NC cured this problem more then any of the therapists. I still can have a panic attack with natural breathing problems but I don't get the out of the blue crushing non-breathing problem related ones anymore. Some therapists used to be shocked, at what I had to tell them. At least 4 told me, I am the worse case of emotional and other abuse they ever heard of, but why didn't they explain to me about NPD? Why did I have to wait until my 40s to find out from the internet? Agree about that being your "official diagnosis". I've had a lot change with me too.
DeleteMy adopted narc mother consulted with a therapist but there were conflicts on interests, as my adopted mother was willing to pay $40 per weekly session in the early 1980s ($122.45 today). She claimed that she went through "midlife crisis" and she "was better than most people." That therapist vilified my adopted siblings that they all saw mental hospitalization, and two of them went through the most humiliating experiences that they lost their sense of dignity. My adopted brother died at the age of 32. My adopted mother did not get a proper diagnose because her therapist was a narc who wanted money.
ReplyDeleteI have problem with the way system works and will make notes of it when Valerie B. Coles published her dissertation and papers. My comments will follow her paper everywhere it goes because she is hurting us if she does not take her responsibility to note these issues of getting our sneaky narc parents to get an official diagnoses. The official diagnoses system is helping narcs. I am not interested in protecting narcs and will make sure I will not let Valerie protect or cover for them. I will post anonymously and will make sure people will know there are problems with her research.
Sorry your mother got an enabling therapist. A narc teamed up with an enabler or co-narcissist therapist is a definitely a danger. It sounds like the therapist believed her stories or was a narcissist too and helped adopted children be abused and pushed into the mental ward as your adoptive mother called on them as a problem. Sadly I believe this happens more often then not. I think if I had been forced into the system, I would have been destroyed, my parents could put on a good act. It horrifies me how your narc adopted mother managed to not only shove one child in the mental hospital but did it to more then one and was BELIEVED and no one thought to ask if she was the problem?
DeleteI have problems with the way the system works too. I'm not sure if these researchers are bound by rules outside of themselves. It is possible. It seems to be a double bind because how on earth could an ACON get an official diagnosis? Call up our NMs and ask them to go to a psychologist? HA! They could even end up with ones that end up enabling them. I always wondered in the therapist/psychiastrist/psychologist world if they screen for personality disorders before hirings. How can an ACON win if it is their experiences put under the micro-scope and the narcs are automatically given the benefit of the doubt? I don't know the answers here. Abuse victims have to be believed.
I heard a newsreporter say there are so many making the claim against Bill Cosby, it is not right to doubt it.
DeleteLisette I hope everything's okay? I hope to see your much-needed blog up again soon.
ReplyDeleteHey guys, Lisette's blog is back!
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