Wednesday, June 8, 2016

Some things about Immigration I don't get....

                                         from right wing news.com

My neighborhood  in the last few years has had a flood of immigrants to it. They are mostly from India. Those who I have met are nice people.  But inside I think to myself, "Why do they have good jobs and nice cars, why my husband doesn't get to have the same thing?" We drive a rust bucket and they have the latest model automobiles. They aren't wanting for a job. They are wearing suits and the American dream is coming true for them. The American dream for us and many others is long ago dead. Don't ask your millennials either.  More then 40 percent of them are still living at home with their parents. I bet they would want some good jobs too, instead of being made into perpetual teenagers who can't even afford an apartment.

Some people told me, "Oh they are good at engineering and IT and Americans aren't" but I know SEVERAL unemployed IT and engineering people who were born here. One guy whose been here all his life fixes my computer in town for 25 bucks a pop. That's pretty cheap. I bet he would want a good job that paid well too. Why are they handing H-1B Visas out like candy while Americans go without work? Is this the kind of stuff that is going to get Trump elected?

Here's one thing I want always wanted to know too is why can't Americans go anywhere for a better life? I am too sick but I know people who have tried to emigrate, and it seems unless you are ultra-wealthy or can bring hundreds of thousands of dollars with you, you can't go anywhere.

 My husband wanted to live in England for good when he was young in the early 1990s but the rules were he had to leave within 6 months based on a special student program he was in. The rules are even more strict today.  So he had no choice to stay, he had to come back unless he "worked off the grid" or as an "illegal" in England.  What is weird is England has a ton of third world immigrants but if you are from the first world forget getting in unless you have money or other connections. My husband is the first generation son of German immigrants so maybe he found European culture a more comfortable place, but he was still blocked out. What kind of life could he have had in England? It's good he came back to the USA so we could meet, but it's sad for him. He didn't know he could claim German citizenship up to age 23, by then it was too late and he was used to America being there from birth.

One of my online friends got married to someone else from another country, and the immigration rules were so horrible and expensive, the marriage ended up breaking apart. Marriage doesn't allow any mercy if you don't fit in a special category. I joked to the one from Australia and said, "Go in via Mexico" but that wasn't a real option. The American side of the equation was not allowed to go to Australia either.

Its like everyone ELSE can go anywhere they want, but unless an American is a millionaire, or has an extreme specialized skill [journalism doesn't it cut it but medical skills might], the doors are shut to an American wanting to seek out a better life or opportunities. I and my husband discussed him getting a job in Canada, a few years ago after hitting nothing but dead ends here. "Maybe you should see if there are journalism jobs there? "Well that's not happening, a disabled person can't move to Canada. If there is one disabled member of the household, it's a no go! I know a story where this one doctor wanted to move to Canada and he had a disabled daughter with autism and was barred from entrance.

Chinese people are gaming our college system and paying people to take tests for them to enter USA universities. It's not just the companies dissing Americans and putting them last but more and more colleges want foreign money and students. Forgotten is that in some dog eat dog nations, you do what it takes to survive, which often puts honesty last. I remember even my own state university having a ton of foreign students. To be honest maybe that has held the college bubble off. So while Americans realizing college isn't paying off and the student loans are too high, maybe foreigners attending US universities have kept them afloat.  Sometimes I think globalists are stupid, and totally naïve to boot, they act like the rest of the world is run like 1950s America. So while they bar Americans from succeeding, they act dumb about real things and corruption.

I get sick of our government always handed endless foreign aid to other countries and pushing that nation-building garbage when all of them always head to social security disability first to make cuts. They ignore our teeming ghettos and dying industry, and head over to the rest of the world to pass out more money we don't have. Politicians always go on about the world this and the world that, while the country is falling apart. The churches send everyone overseas too. They ignore the ghettos and the people living in shacks in our rural areas, and go to the warm beaches like the Duggars to "witness". Aren't there any Americans that need help? I see them with their cardboard signs and shopping carts all over the place.

There's a reason America wants to vote for someone like Trump. I don't trust Trump to save the day either but understand this is one point he has sold himself on.  Other countries seem to put their own people first, while this one just puts us last on behalf of all the globalist dreams. Why are Americans always being put LAST by their own country? Why is everyone allowed to come here, when people here can't go anywhere? Our young people are being pushed into more and more severe poverty now unable to afford their own apartments as the powers that be here, seems to want to hand everything to the rest of the world while dismantling all the manufacturing here. If Americans can't get jobs, why do some liberals act like there is endless work for everyone?

I was a bit afraid to write this because some people may shout xenophobe but something is very wrong with the system. I grew up best friends with Vietnamese immigrants who got shot at trying to leave Vietnam during the Vietnam war. I am married to a son of immigrants. His parents probably would have done better to have stayed in Germany, they died poor but they did get to enjoy some years of prosperity until the USA economy started to fall off the cliff.

I have enjoyed other cultures and what they have to bring to the USA. I believe there is a place for legal immigration but isn't there something UNFAIR, about the Immigration system. Do those people have a point about Americans always being put last? I certainly don't blame people who are simply trying to survive. In this world you have to make all sorts of decisions. The elites and oligarchy have no interest in ending their endless globalist wars that make for refugees and human suffering like in Syria, and the no one is holding Mexico to account for it's corruption which forces people out to just survive.

I believe legal immigration can be an asset, and I enjoy encountering other cultures, and I am even married to someone whose family came from elsewhere but something is really wrong with the immigration system and something is wrong with a country that is selling out it's own people and doesn't take care of it's own first. When I lived in Chicago, I used to envy the immigrants there, I know that sounds weird, but they had their own people supporting them, they had groups and a heritage and a sense of belonging. This is something lacking for Americans more and more.

Many Americans feel adrift, like they do not belong to anyone or anywhere and this is why you see the resentment building in some circles. Some have been made strangers in their own towns where while they see opportunity, community and connection for outsiders, there's nothing for them. I lived in a dying rural town where as people watched the factories close and their futures dry up, the pain was unbelievable. That can bring real grief to people's lives. That was supposed to be my life long home. Now I live on the edges of a larger town where I have never felt the same sense of community.  They have been cast off, and know their financial futures are dismal. I don't think the immigrants are to blame for that, I blame the powers that be who use immigration to bust wages and to serve as a safety valve for their endless globalist enterprises. No, I don't trust Trump to fix these things either. Hillary definitely has no interest in doing so either.

Third World Guilt-Tripping

25 comments:

  1. Its cause no one here wants to do the jobs that no one likes, um yeah. But why is it so hard to even find those jobs? Cause you are not really looking.

    Over here there is a saying, "whites need not apply". Those who have said that got told off. How racist. And its not what the rules are spelled out to say, but that is how the system works. That is how the system works, and their actions speak for themselves.

    I am not racist, but I hate the fact the government is actually trying to instill anger in the people who only want to pay their bills too.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yeah they claim no one wants the jobs, but it's really to suppress the wages. Some guest workers is alright to me but come on, now it's the college degreed and middle class jobs getting handed over too. I was told "Whites need no apply" in Chicago. I am sure that happens the opposite way too. Racism is all over the place. I'm not racist either but the system is getting more and more unfair, and something is wrong with it. When people don't even feel at home in their own countries, something is wrong.

      Delete
  2. I totally agree with you! Why is our government letting thousands of refugees and illegals come here (and then giving them benefits, housing etc) while so many people here are homeless?
    There's thousands of people living in their vans or RVs and now they want to make that illegal, too! But the refugees get a place to live...just does'nt make sense!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I wonder that too, and even in the 1990s, I saw in Chicago they had supportive agencies, housing and other supports, and even the support of their own communities while others went homeless. It's happening now too. I called a homeless friend in my old town yesterday, she's still homeless from what I can tell. It made me Sigh and then some. Yes so many people are becoming homeless and living in vans or RVs.

      Delete
    2. Contrast that with the platitudes and mean-spirited brow-beating we cop from our own families and acquaintances! We're coldly lectured on our "need to adjust to the new global reality", hectored to "stand on [our] own two feet", etc., whilst being given no assistance whatsoever to set about getting established.

      Guess I'm in no hurry to visit the Gold Coast or Sunshine Coast—you never know if the Duggars might be there too!

      Delete
    3. Yes if you do not succeed you are considered "scum" to throw away and it can come early. Some cultures are more competitive than others but even here in the USA there are cultures where people have your back even if you are poor and facing challenges, your family does not abandon you. Often even some of the success of immigrants in the USA is from pooled resources of families instead of the pulling each other down in the families long here. Yes we are told "stand on your own two feet" and "These are the new realities". Young people don't even realize what has been taken away from them, the formation of actual lives where real work that pays decent wages serves as the foundation of, not joke jobs that can't even pay a rent or lack of jobs at all. LOL hope the Duggars leave you alone down under. That may be the last place they have not infected!

      Delete
    4. It's interesting how you here you talk about how family support is a benefit and how many cultures use the support of family in order to gain success and a better life, yet in other blog you have said how seeing the family celebrated has made you sick to your stomach. I'm not attempting to nit pick, I'm genuinely curious as to what your thoughts on family support are because your writing on the subject has seemed inconsistent.

      Delete
    5. In decent healthy families, some family support is a good thing. It is to be balanced.

      Delete
  3. http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/06/17/illegal-immigrants-treated-better-than-homeless-in-us/

    ReplyDelete
  4. Dear Peeps and Friends, the link about cheating exams, came as a surprise to me. But I shouldn't be surprised about any lie coming from a culture that has a long history of win-at-all-costs.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I agree. That's the problem they think all cultures match this one even in how things are done.

      Delete
  5. I hope this doesn't come off as an I told you so comment, but I worked construction back when the first waves of illegal aliens started to flood in and in a couple of years I couldn't pay to work. There was no lack of BMW driving yuppies telling me how to get ahead. Most of their advice revolved around the philosophy of be born to a wealthy family you sniveling jack ass. I remember thinking your day will come. And it has. And it did. First time I have seen karma work for me even if it's in a tangential retribution payback way. And to anonymous up there I see your point, but there are families that look out for their own and families that suck the life out of you. We got the latter. I had fantastic grandparents, but it only took one generation of dysfunction to decimate us.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Oh yes construction has been taken away for people born in America. What happened to native born field hands in others? I guess it is the streets for them. I once got so desperate for a job, I went to a slaughter house, trying to get in latter packaging not the place where they kill the cows but a bit more down the line, and was turned away. That makes me feel sad, and it happened at other work places too. I had the BMW yuppies who told me I was a loser too, and 'how to get ahead" and JUST WORK HARDER, but even finding the work was hell on earth. ONE DECENT JOB could have sent my life on a different trajectory.

      Yeah some families look out of their own, they are true kinfolk, they care, they support, they don't cut you off from all help and connections. I'm standing at the food pantries getting abused by rich people just two weeks ago probably while my mother is eating crab legs for 30 bucks a plate or more. We got the opposite. I wish I was born in an immigrant family, at least there'd be some shame given to those squandering the wealth in pure selfishness and avarice. Yeah you had good grandparents but one generation took out their good intentions. Many people in America unlike immigrants do not have TRUE FAMILIES or KINFOLKS in any type of meaning of the word. We got people who wanted to squash us and wanted us to lose and cheer on our demise.

      Delete
  6. I have a regular commentor sp? that ponders the question of how many people in shelters and soup kitchens can trace the genesis of their non compliance with keeping up with the Jones to being the narc scapegoat. They don't called them malignant for nothing. I can't be too hard on the unenlightened I still have to ponder having a mother that went out of her way to basically slap my hopes of success out of my hands faster than I can acquire it. And I worked my self half to death over the years. It's not from shying away from hard work

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I can tell you worked hard very hard. We ended up as poor as drug addicts who smoked crack everyday. My husband did 12-14 hours a day for the newspaper. Before I was disabled, I worked 4 jobs at a time at some times, and there was always at least 2. The last job I worked 60-70 hours a week. All I did was work myself into a hole.

      Delete
    2. I wouldn't doubt the soup kitchens and shelters are full of narc scapegoats. People always ask of the homeless where's their family? Yeah they are malignant to the core and then there is double abuse for "not making it". Even I wanted to go to my aunt's funeral this week, there's no money to do it. I have 10 dollars on me. You can't ask a friend to drive if you can't even pitch in for gas or feed yourself along the way. I don't plan to go but I lived on the skids so long just a point above homelessness. Yes your mother slapped the hope of success out of your hands. Mine too.

      Delete
    3. http://joanfrenchy.blogspot.ca/2015/05/a-soul-murder.html

      An example is my cousin I wrote about. Update: I can't find him anymore. Here I wrote about him and his childhood. The last time I saw him he had lost his ability to talk, isn't that curious? Can't talk anymore?

      Delete
    4. You don't know where he is? Is he in the hospital, could he have died? Who told you he could not talk anymore, can you trust them? So sorry to hear it. :(

      Delete
    5. I don't know if its privacy laws I'm up against, or if he died or what. The hospital which used to house him can't tell me where he is, so they say. He has been there a lot of years.

      I know he can't talk, I have approached him about 10 years ago, and he was in the streets. His talking is only to himself. Very incoherent, he smiles now and again to himself, vaguely. Long trench coat he hides in.

      I would like to try to find him. Hospital only says that they don't give out that information.

      Thanks Peep. You know if I can find him and get him back I might have a family member on board. I know he was a scapegoat.

      Delete
    6. I think as a relative you could still get some information. Sorry he has gotten so sick. Maybe next tell the hospital you are a next of kin. I hope you can find him, he probably could use an ally and some support.

      Delete
  7. The narcissists trained you well. Immigrants make a great scapegoat for America's problems. We act different, we have different cultures, a lot of us look different, so it's easy to blame us for the problems you caused for yourselves.

    (I may as well add, Americans are one of the largest foreign-born populations in my home country. Some are in the US military, some came over as students, others due to jobs or family ties. Since I came to live in America, I've made several friends who've since left for other countries to find work. It's not at all true that Americans don't leave the US. But who cares about truth when you're looking for a scapegoat? America has a school cheating crisis, so sure, why not blame cheating on immigrant kids too?)

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Whose blaming the immigrants? Don't you get that the politicos adjust the borders to their own desires. I am not going to blame Mexicans who come here to SURVIVE, because the politicians want the wages in American suppressed. This country is getting more messed up. Look who they may elect for president. I am not some YAH YAH USA #1 person, those problems I see them too. As for different cultures, this one is decaying so fast, GOOD. The different looks, who cares? How come anyone questions the unfair immigration rules or the system someone starts with the "You're a xenophobe" junk. I don't look like anyone either. No one in this town or maybe around 5 people match me in skin tone or looks. I'm guess I'm too dark for them I got the whites mostly of German and Scandanavian ancestry in this small town blathering on and asking me if I am half Indian or a Greek or an Italian but I am not African American. America is still nuts on race.

      What country is that if you don't mind telling us? is your country allowing permanent residency for Americans? Do they have to have special job skills? Sure the Americans are cheating too. Why do I know so many Americans who were "too poor" to leave? Why do people always just tell Americans we all suck like we are all monoliths who support the system? So you had the money to leave your country, many of us don't have the money to leave here, or in my case the health.

      Delete
    2. Nope, I'm saying your a xenophobe because you're claiming that 'Americans are put last'. I am struggling to imagine what this could mean. As an immigrant you come here with no work references, no credit score, and no belongings other than what you can carry. Almost all of us have long periods of time where we weren't allowed to legally work or we had significant restrictions on what work we can do, or we require a work sponsor (something many companies refuse to do). I'm finding it hard to see that as "Americans put last".

      The other reason you sound like a xenophobe is that you're playing what I call the "Good Immigrant Bad Immigrant" game. You're mentioning Good Immigrants and would-be immigrants you knew, conveniently from Germany or Australia, and pitting them against those cheaters and rulebreakers, who happen to be from China and Mexico.

      How the game works: People from white countries are good. The immigration system is set up to favour us. People from brown countries are bad and the system is set up to make them fail.

      It's a sick game for all of us because every new trap that's laid for those Bad Immigrants (who always just happen to not be white) is something we ALL have to deal with. (Not just immigrants, even - Americans also now have to deal with work verification and unconstitutional voter ID laws because of the system that's designed to deter Bad Immigrants).

      The end result of the game is that NO immigrants have rights. In fact, no workers have rights. While there's immigrants - Bad Immigrants who broke the rules - who are denied basic labor rights like the right to a minimum wage and a safe workplace - American workers can't demand those rights either. (That's why the wages are suppressed. Not because there are immigrants, but because immigrants don't have rights.)

      When you play the game like you did in this post, we all lose. Why are so many Americans okay with playing the game where they all lose?

      Delete
    3. Americans are put last by their own country. Look they are sending billions overseas for their stupid wars and nation building while the infrastructure here worsens. Look to get here in the first place you have to have money. Even Mexicans who pay coyotes have 5-10,0000 dollars I never have had. Sadly many are enslaved or sold into trafficking. You had money to get here in the first place and that was more money then many Americans have. Sure they tell you this place is RICH, and everyone here has endless money but that is NOT the reality.

      As for work references, so what? Those age out long enough and become worthless. Credit scores? Oh you mean our slave scores? It's better NOT to have one then to have one that is so low you are closed out because you lost jobs or got giant medical bills.

      Look Americans can't even get jobs! My husband hasn't had a normal job in 7 years. You think I am going to cry over some immigrants having to wait for work visas? This is what I am talking about. Americans can't get jobs, and most aren't realizing they are transferring the economy over to slave wages gig employment. My husband ironically works for some overseas companies paying pennies on the dollars. I believe one of his transcription companies is even based in India. Ironic huh? The food pantry we went to last night had an article posted on the wall that he wrote, and they realized he wrote it. Oh yeah, even doing intellectual labor in the USA means POVERTY, isnt that wonderful? They noticed and laughed and I thought well I hope people wake up their jobs pushing paper will soon be over too. Globalism is sinking the ships on all levels. Americans are restricted in work. As I wrote here, you get to come here, we dont get to go anywhere unless we are millionaires or have a specialized medical degree.

      Maybe you see only "rich" America, many immigrants come here thinking this place is WEALTHY and think our lives are like how the TV protrays it with everyone on Home and Garden with their fancy granite shelves and new tiles.
      continuing...

      Delete

    4. Aren't Mexicans breaking the rules coming over the border illegally? Who can blame them? After all it's obvious their leaders are working hand in hand with ours to keep the wages down. That's a mainstream news article admitting the cheating of Chinese students, are they racists for saying this is happening?

      I am sick of people who make everything racial issues. China is for the Chinese but the Western nations have to take everyone in and toss their own people over the side of the boat? I don't see China and Mexico opening the doors wide. if an American slips over the border to Mexico, they find themselves in jail. Oh yeah the rules aren't quite the same are they?

      As for race issues What about our unemployed African American communities where they were born here same as everyone else? The factories sent overseas put their communities in poverty even sooner then predominantly white ones. I drive through a severely impoverished ghetto to get to the grocery stores I can afford EVERY WEEK. Oh yeah, supposedly America is rich, the land of the streets of gold.....

      Sure the elites are turning all races against each other, but the anti-white garbage is stupid too. Oh yeah supposed there is no such thing as a poor white in the world. I guess all those white and black people I saw at the food pantry yesterday should just go die in the gutter, the world is your oyster while we are yesterday's news. Since the global elites will clamor over every each other to suppress wages down to third world rates for EVERYONE!

      Even then I wrote in this article...."I certainly don't blame people who are simply trying to survive. In this world you have to make all sorts of decisions. The elites and oligarchy have no interest in ending their endless globalist wars that make for refugees and human suffering like in Syria, and the no one is holding Mexico to account for it's corruption which forces people out to just survive. "

      Maybe some of you need to come out of the RICH AMERICANS stereotypes you've been handed.

      This place goes under, what will be left, a thin sliver of global elite and nothing but global serfs, but that is what they want.

      Delete