He's right about the breaking down of social bonds in making this all possible. Sub sub tribes makes sense. Germany and Austria definitely didn't learn their lesson on the first go around. He mentions "Nothing makes sense". That's on purpose, the sociopaths and malignant narcissists of the world always have used double-blind, lies and confusion to push their agendas. It's happening now. Reasonable and sane people keep asking, "Why are they pushing vaxxes still that are obviously failing and have so many huge adverse effects?" There's no response, the indoctrinated keep doubling down instead. I agree with him about the hypnosis. Trauma programming has shut down all logic. They are pushing a harmful vaxx on people that is FAILING and not stopping transmission and giving immunity. The death rate has gone up since 2020. It's not working.
It's good he addresses how the crowd will believe any lies from leaders. We see that now. The leaders are lying. When I have talked to the few I have, I say "Why do you believe these leaders"? It's to try to get them to think. Sometimes one will have success avoiding confrontation but asking about other ideas.
One thing that frightens me is the instant go to of censorship even in small circles of people. They shut you don't they don't want to listen or questions or logic, and that has put society in a very dangerous place. Outside dissenters are attacked.
He is right about the indoctrinated not being able to hear any data. That's where we are at now, many won't be reached by any facts. However that said, we don't want division, or a war between vaxxed and unvaxxed, the powers that be would want that. We want to try and meet people where they are at. His idea to bring up the lost rights to people and the attacks on our freedoms is a good one. We do need stronger local ties and connections. I need to work more on finding more people locally who are allies in standing against what is going on. Check out this video and tell me what you think.
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ReplyDeleteHi Peeps,
ReplyDeleteI think this happened to me once. In fact, I know it did. My brother had just come to visit me after thirty years of not seeing one another. I had visions of sugar plums dancing in my head that everything was finally going to be all right between us. My MNM had worked constantly to drive us apart as kids. As an example, when we would sit down at the dinner table at night, she would berade him about how come he couldn't be more like (me) "your sister" and get good grades in school? After she really got him feeling bad about himself and using me to do it, she would then tell him a couple hours later to "kiss your sister goodnight." You should have seen the look on his face when he was forced to do this. I got that same look on the night before his last night's stay, when he said, "I guess I've got a couple brain cells left running around up there somewhere," after he told us about his period of intra-venous drug use and the fact that he had contracted hepatitis c.
Other than this moment, which gave me considerable pause, we had a great time on his visit. A few months later, he told me he had been diagnosed with prostate cancer. My mother said his wife (girlfriend of 20 years) was not helping him out with info or going to his appointments. I sent him some diagrams and stuff to look at. Things took a turn for the worse with the Hep C due to the varices that form from liver damage. He had been in a clinical trial for treatment years back with interferon, but was unsuccessful because he wasn't able to tolerate the whole treatment. The antivirals he needed to cure him this time around cost $90,000. This was a three-month course of one pill a day for 90 days. These pills were available through the "big hearted" pharmacuetical giant, Gilead. My brother had no medical insurance, and could not afford anything close to that amount of money.
There came a time, when my mother put the question to me (my only months previous N/C with her had lasted ten years, and I hadn't seen her in over 20, and there there was the occasional letter) the question she put to me was, "are we just going to let him die then?"
Will see if this goes through before spending any more time on it.
Chelle
Wow after all that. It seems to me he came just for help and place to stay? Hope I am reading everything right, some of my ADHD has been really bad. Please know if I get late here in responses usually will show up within the week. It's terrible he rejected you yet again, makes me wonder what the whole deal was, just get you to respond and then dump you? I have heard of narcissists or their associates doing that, pretending to have Come to Jesus movements with their old scapegoats, faking it and then just dumping you. He of course is the sick and dying one, but that doesn't change their inherent nature, a narcissitic dog in the corner licking its wounds readying for the end but still unloading some hurt on the way out, I've heard of this stuff even happening from the death beds of some people like this. So you had him visit, he had health problems and then cancer diagnosis you tried to help him with and he was cold and blocked you out. Makes me wonder about reason for the first visit, it may have been friendly etc, or seemed to but he was probably planning to drop you cold. Hmm the force huggings definitely built resentment.
Deleteone thing I had to learn is I used to try to "help" people with things but I seemed to make them more angry, it's one thing with neurotypicals I don't get along with them on. I don't do it anymore but it's something to watch out for. Aspie means well, but they are angry that I am sending out information like I am insulting them. :/ I think you meant well here but did he take offense seeing it in the wrong way. Do you consider him personality disordered too?
Chelle continuing ...
ReplyDeleteOf course I wasn't willing to do that, so I set into motion, looking for answers. I sftudied Hep C the way I have been these "vaccines". I followed the specialists and the latest info coming out of the anual hepatic conferences in Europe and the U.S. I studied for hours a day on end.
I came across an Australian professor who also had Hep C and couldn't afford the treatment. He had a blog through Hep C magazine, and had decided to travel to India to get his prescription and medicine from the pharmacuetical companies there. One for generic meds (antivirals) and the other big label from Gilead. He took us readers along with him on his journey.
He had been in touch with a local doctor for a local prescription. He needed a prescription and diagnosis from his Australian physician, but there was some kind of a scandal there too, that if he wasn't going to pay full price through the "normal" channels, they would not give him one. Lots of similar things going on with that situation like this one. Anyway, he was able to do his labs and fibroscan there, I think. He was then able to get his local prescription with which to go get his lifesaving meds.
They wouldn't give them to him on the spot (were not retail) but would "courier" them to his hotel. It was quite entertaining the way he described his nervousness waiting for these, to see if he would actually "get away with it" as if he was doing an illegal drug deal. His meds did arrive, his total cost for the three months' treatment around $900.
Am a passenger in a car today, will write more later.
Chelle
Sounds like a good blog, maybe brother didn't trust this blogger, with medical stuff many don't trust a lot in alternative medicine, but this guy sounds like he did find meds that works. I know some alternative medicine is bogus too but it seems he would have known you had good intentions. it's weird some people do take offense at someone trying to "help".
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ReplyDeleteWe followed him back home in Australia, as he took his meds, reported on any side effects, and went to get his blood tests done to see if it was going to work. It was inspirational when his liver enzymes began to fall.
I had been emailing my brother about the blog and the man's journey from the beginning, which he could follow closely to know what to expect. He never once went on there. Not only was he ignoring the blog, he was ignoring me. One would think when ones lifesaving meds go from $90,000 to $900 it might be worthy of some sort of emotion or response. I got nothing. Zip. Nada.
I had studied his unique circumstances and came to understand that he was GT3, treatment experienced, and cirhottic. This was the worst possible trifecta. He would need additional medication of declatisvir to be included with what was available in India. The same professor, who went on to help thousands of people get their medication, had this located in a lab in China. This would give him an increased chance of an additional 15%, which put him above the dividing line. He would also need to do two courses, or 6 months. My point with all of this is that I REALLY put a lot of time into this, at the exclusion of everything else. I was completely closed down and razor focused like Dr. Malone talks about here, and this coupled with his completely sideways responses (or complete lack thereof) I was naturally thrown off kilter. I couldn't understand what was going on. It made no sense to me. I wrote him an email after he got mad at me pointing out his strangeness with all of this and he said, "I'm not attacking you." And I thought about that because I did feel bloody and beaten on the inside. I said, "sometimes you can attack a person by omission, by not showing up to any of the important meetings held about YOUR LIFE." This was my first dawning of understanding as to what passive/aggressive behavior looked and felt like.
In addition to the medical aspect, there was the legal aspect. They had to be FDA approved. I had to look into that, as well as what he would need to show to a postal inspector or customs agent. So to have him treating me the way he was was truly "mind boggling".
When my husband would call my name, he had to call louder than normal and a couple of times to get my attention. I was "shell-shocked" too, in that I would jump out of my skin over anything I perceived as a threat or some sort of impending doom like the sudden bark of our dog or a mop falling over. I was literally worn to a frazzle, but somehow felt we were so close, if I just kept going, we could get to the end.
One day I was rummaging through a draw I seldom go in, probably looking for some dog medication, and I picked up a bee bee gun. It has an air carterage and bee bees, looks exactly like a gun, and had the non chaulant passing thought that if I just held that up to my temple and pulled the trigger, it would fix my head. I WOKE UP THAT INSTANT! I was jarred from the apparent psychosis I had been in knowing that there was something very wrong with that thought. It was like hitting a light switch.
Will send this to see if it goes through ...
Chelle
Your brother definitely is triggering you, to a bad place, I would back away from that situation even find a counselor to talk to. You have to take care of yourself. Don't take his problems on as your own. People like us from these families, they can put us in this "I will help you mode" but then they wham the fist down, and it can be very hard to take. I think he is treating you badly and your depression is resulting from the brush-off and treatment. Remember they can be on their death beds even and still be cruel and fake. You are bending over trying to save the relationship. We dream that narcissists and their associates when they see the Grim Reaper approach, that this may have them change their ways, we imagine them making amends, being kind etc. But it's just not them. Yeah it's depressing too I know. I hope you feel better soon. I wouldn't do anything for him anymore. you tried, don't waste any more time and take care of yourself.
DeleteSometimes we give people a second chance even when we know we've been wronged or gaslit in hopes they will recapacitate. It doesn't always work out. Sorry to have offended the. Wish I understood why.
ReplyDeleteSee above, you didn't offend me, see responses above. Hope you will feel better soon, he treated you awful.
DeleteThanks Peeps,
ReplyDeleteBut that was in 2014. He died in 2016. I only brought it up here as it related to the piece you put up about one being hipnotized by being caught up by a very specific set of actions. I thought mine and what happened to me at that time echoed these to a tee. Fortunately I have healed up from it long ago, with perhaps a few scars left naturally. I didn't know fully what had happened to me until looking at this video you put up. Don't know that I would totally believe this theory, had it not happened to me, which is why I brought this extemely personal subject up here, for whatever benefit it may provide to anyone looking.
Still the advice for taking care of oneself is good, I'll take it! The paralells of the insidiouseness of Covid research makes it a cautionary tale as well, except I don't have anyone hammering me in the head with their bullshit while I do it. (Fauci and his gang excepted of course).
Got to go with my gut as always on all else.
Chelle
Yeah we get hypnotized especially being raised by these narcissists and more. I have to be careful of some of my former programming getting to me, I could feel the edges of it lapping at my feet. Not with family but with other things. With the Covid stuff nothing is making sense, I don't trust right or left. Sometimes all we can do is follow our intution and instincts, I was telling this local new naturopath friend I met on Zooms, lol I know I socialize kind of weirdly, that I don't trust either side and feel like I am wiggling on a stick in the middle. But going back to the hypnotism, I was programmed to "keep trying" with the family, we all get caught up, and the fantasy, that this time they will understand, if I prove myself 'good' "enough" helpful enough etc. Maybe it's good I was low on resources because I could see if I had been a more well off person, trying even harder. You tried with brother thinking well his terminal illness will make him want to leave this world with a more positive legacy but trust me, these narcissists don't wake up. The world has been hypnotized, so Malone is right. Weird how all this Covid stuff intersects with our narcissistic scapegoating past. That's one thing I hate about all this. I was eager about life, enjoying so much, seeing the world open, and then SLAM....[though I always try to enjoy what I can]
DeleteI got an IBS attack yesterday [too much oil in a Chinese food dish I ate I think, fried rice] and got worried I "caught it" even without seeing another human except husband without a KN95 mask on and got a bit of a panic attack. I think the 2 years of this has ground some down. Maybe the healthier less fearful ones can go to that 50,000 full stadium and think nothing of it. LOL My family was never afraid of anything. I wonder about those elite parties where they never mask up or follow any of their own rules, do they have ancedotes or think fate has blessed them so much it never could "happen to them". Just figuring out what is going o now is hard. We obviously can't trust the news anymore. Just trying to go by what is going on around us is hard. I do know people are getting sick from the vaxx, know too many--now two personally young and otherwise healthy who got blood clots. I don't know anyone who has had serious "glass lung" Covid though in a few months though some of the other vaxxed I know seem to be getting really bad illnesses. Yeah we have to go with our gut. The damage to society here too where the experts are not to be trusted because of malfeasance and corruption [why aren't the gain of function people in jail yet?] is going to bring new problems as well. It's like with those narcissistic families, none of us never knew what was going on, everything was a SECRET, we were lied to all the time and it was living in a fog machine.
correction above ancedote should be antidote
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ReplyDeleteYes I have gotten into trouble trying to "help". I bought that x friend's son and his girlfriend $80. in groceries, and the response I got was not at all what I expected. It was a pitiful inaudable "oh, thank you so much". But he is a Guide and she had a weekly paycheck from her job, which she had lost because of the pandemic. They were asking me if they could be kicked out for not paying rent. So I just wanted to help, but it felt like I had crossed his "manhood" or "jungle boy" line somehow. When I spoke to him on the phone later, the vibes I was getting had me feeling like I should apologize somehow, which told me a lot.
My brother took a seven hour flight to get to me, so I wasn't just a convenient place to stay or to get help from. But, he told me a week before he died, knowing that he was going to, that I had a husband who loved me, and our place was paid for, and that he felt like I had opportunties he didn't have. So, instead of him being happy for me, he decided to make it a pissing contest, and felt he had come up short. I think from then on I made him feel bad about himself, so he avoided me like the plague. Wish I had been clued into this while it was happening, so I was definately in the weeds.
As for him being skeptical, when I pressed him he said he wasn"t going to just go and take something he didn't know anything about. That's why it would have been great had he followed the blog and decided for himself. But he and his wife were believers in a medical treatment of intravenous vitimins and hyperbaric chamber therapy given down Mexico way. The purpose of this "treatment" was to ready the body for chemotherapy, which he was not even in the neighborhood of needing. I know this because I asked the doctor who was going to treat him down there, what the plan was, and what was to be expected? I also just wanted the doctor to be aware, that someone acquainted with the language and culture was looking out for him.
Chelle
Yeah trying to help can always end up in trouble. Narcissists always find things to be jealous about. I was broke and sick but then felt like I was making the narcs mad by being too lovey dovey with husband and they'd flash mean looks at me for being too happy in husband's company. So trust me everything's a pissing contest with them. You could be sitting on the side of the street homeless but then they'd get mad you had nicer hair than them and no bald spots or something. he should be glad you had the things you did. That's one thing in narcissist families, everything is a competition, like in mine they compared the rich to poor, single to attached. Anyone single for a long time with my relatives, woe to them. Almost felt like warning an unmarried cousin, unless he got a wife and some kids soon, he was going to be a non-person [he isn't asexual or LBTG in this case] in my family's view. Yeah bite the hand that feeds you could apply here. That's one thing some down and out types aren't always the scapegoats but can be the narcissists. This is a lesson I had to learn, not to assume every other poor or homeless person like me was like me. I'm not homeless and bills are mostly paid now.
DeleteAnd yeah there's always that feeling you are not enough or didn't do enough even if you tried everything. I know one reason for my no contact is I simply got worn out. That's one thing that will keep it intact. "I'm too tired". CFS means I am not going to be able to pay homage for 12-14 hours without laying down now.
Yeah him making it a pissing contest was sad, he probably was angry too, that he was sick and you were not. I can understand a degree of that from people who are ill, certainly have felt those emotions myself, but with terminally ill they will come natural I guess but in toxic person, there will be one upmanship games, and almost this feeling of how dare I am sick, I deserve MORE then you.
Do you think his alternative medicine path made things worse for him? I believe in some alternative medicine though I've had other kinds "fail" on me. Here I am in a weird middle path way. The drawing salve worked but ear candles and tumeric failed. With cancer, it's a huge risk. I sometimes wonder what I would do with dangers of chemo, would I go for the B17 and SourSop or follow doctor's directions, hard to know. Doctors did help some of my problems with modern medicine, like kidney stones, I know some here with my hatred of the covid vaxxes probably think I am against modern medicine but I am not. I take 12 pharmaceutical products daily.
So your brother didn't need chemo? Were they recommending radiation and he said no? Glad you tried to help with the doctor too. It is sad you try to help someone but every step you take is wrong. I would write this one off, that he was dying and you won't see the best out of people at that stage but he should have treated you better that's a fact. TV and literature tells us we will have healing death bed scenes with those who have had problems with but I doubt that happens much in the real world. The sick and dying are out of it and sleeping a lot. Whatever mental disorders and angst there is, are probably worsened 10 fold. You did your best.
I agree that is hard to trust leaders. Do some leaders become more narcissistic because they are in leadership positions, or because they already have narcissistic traits and want more domination, power and control? Perhaps it's a chicken-and-egg thing?
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I saw this in The Atlantic (an article entitled "America is Not Ready for Omicron" by Ed Yong) and thought it might be appropriate to this discussion:
"Vaccines can’t be the only strategy ... The rest of the pandemic playbook remains unchanged and necessary: paid sick leave and other policies that protect essential workers, better masks, improved ventilation, rapid tests, places where sick people can easily isolate, social distancing, a stronger public-health system, and ways of retaining the frayed health-care workforce. The U.S. has consistently dropped the ball on many of these, betting that vaccines alone could get us out of the pandemic. Rather than trying to beat the coronavirus one booster at a time, the country needs to do what it has always needed to do—build systems and enact policies that protect the health of entire communities, especially the most vulnerable ones. Individualism couldn’t beat Delta, it won’t beat Omicron, and it won’t beat the rest of the Greek alphabet to come. Self-interest is self-defeating, and as long as its hosts ignore that lesson, the virus will keep teaching it."
Vaccination does (help to) protect the health of entire communities. Getting vaccinated is not only individual, but also collective protection.
DeleteOur former vaccines did protect, but because this one does not stop transmission or give immunity that rule does not apply. Surely Nenad you have caught up on the news that even vaxxed people can spread Covid and are catching it themselves now?
DeleteOne thing with me, I have lived isolated and masked up all this time. According to the way things used to work when vaccines worked, I could enter a room of people with true vaccines and have nothing to worry about and vice versa.
Isn't it time to admit that now the experiment has failed. Since Omnicron is more mild, maybe humanity is going to get a break....but I still am very very worried about anyone who took the vaxxes and yes this includes a lot of friends I care about.
Hi Lise,
DeleteI think we have a serious narcissist/sociopath problem in leaders. I think when we had stronger social ties, that curbed some of the worse behavior though obviously we got leaders like Mao and Mussolini in days past but now we have a mid-level problem where many CEOS and other power brokers in govt and more are moving up due to those narcissistic/sociopathic traits.
I believe we need a focus on TREATMENT. IVM or something else or combination thereof. people should be getting tested for low VIT D too, and they should be telling people to up their immune systems, not passing donuts out. The US has dropped the ball on many public health matters, even the issue of no insurance for many is a problem. A friend thinks Omnicron is a sign the pandemic is waning, I hope they are correct in their optomism but then there is the problem of the side effects from the vaxx. I know another person now who got blood clots in the chest right after taking the vaxx [don't know if was second dose or booster]. I also have had a group close down because vaxxed people "caught Covid" and they are back on Zoom. Lots of confusing stuff causing cognitive dissonance. We visited with a friend over Christmas wearing KN95 masks between us all for hours, I would take mask break in bedroom with door shut but then saw people on Facebook [vaxxed in this case] going maskless to an enclosed stadium with more than 50,000 people. I don't know if they banned unvaxxed there, but since vaxxes don't work on Omnicron how does any of this make sense?
* omicron (no "n" in the middle)
DeleteOh yeah I misspelled it. Hmm seems like I would get that one right, sorry about that. Correction above to OMNICRON, I should have made it OMICRON.
DeleteI think I think OMNI too much like the old magazine.
Yes Nenad,
ReplyDeleteAnd if I wear a raincoat, you will naturally be drier as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
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