Here's a new channel for scapegoats, or now ex-scapegoats! Mandeville's book looks interesting and I plan to order it. She points out a lot of worthwhile facts about the scapegoating family system. I am glad someone is addressing what happens to those who are scapegoated by their entire families.
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ReplyDeleteI understand your gravitating towards revisiting this subject right now. It's something I usually do after feeling re-injured by a new narcissistic relationship, trying to "square it off " in my mind, before laying it to rest.
This past couple years of Covid and our "leaders" response to it, has certainly felt like a "refresher course" and seemingly straight out of the 'Narcissists Playbook'.
Dr. John Campbell recently apologized to us followers, for his earlier advice based on what he "believed to be truth," as put forth by those he had always placed his trust in, as a matter of course. He said he felt very naive now in retrospect for having done so. He was very pro-vax to begin with. I didn't think his apology was necessary, as those of us who followed him (up to 2.5 million now) did so because we knew we would get his honest opinion, whatever it was based on, something that was in short supply at the time. He is a good man. I wanted to share a couple comments that ensued thereof.
Chelle, continuing ...
Chelle, I'm glad Dr. Campbell has come out against the vaxxes now, as we see most of the expert class is doubling down. Hopefully this will be a lesson for him not to trust certain institutions too much again. All of this Covid crap is a revisit to our former abuse, the forced confusion, the destruction of lives and health, the gaslighting, all of it's the same. Hell I'm even reliving the "group think" where everyone follows the psychopaths and narcissists and the few who see through their crap are very very few.
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DeleteDr. Campbell is on youtube and still has to watch what he says, but he finds ways to get his message across. I can't get Rumble btw. Am I doing something wrong maybe? I look for people's adresses through google, and a closed lock appears in the heading, and the page never opens. I know I'm missing a lot now because of this.
Agree about this all being reminiscent of how we were treated by our families. The scapegoating, the gaslighting, the shaming and blaming, the othering, the guilting, and the doubling-down by the powers that be and their "followers" in the face of any questions or legitimate concerns by us, not to mention the "utter contempt" for us daring to ask instead of just falling in line, dutifully and blindly, without reservation. What would have to be true for that to take place?
Yeah, lots to reminisce about here- Fun Times!
Chelle
Hi Chelle, Rumble is being banned in some countries. Look for a 'free proxy" on line and go look at it that way where you go through "another country", it can be trickier for videos to work. I hate that censorship garbage. It's like everywhere has turned into China. I hope you can watch the videos. Yeah all of it reminds me of my family and the way they were. Punishment for speaking out. Hell even the silence where no one talks about what is really going on. My husband wants to stay in our UU, but while I still go to some Zoom services, no one talks about what is actually going on. I just wish I'd seen emotion for once. At a few groups I even said, isn't anyone tired of all this and they treated me kind of weird. I tried to get conversations started in email, nope. I'm not talking heavy stuff either, I'm not getting into the vaxx stuff, but just in general. It's so WEIRD. I have the feeling my entire family is vaxxed to the maxx too. Many of the nieces and nephews all go to colleges or are in careers where they would have forced them, some in a very blue state. I would have had separation come over this stuff anyhow and know they would have called me "crazy". One thing with the family they used to get really really pissed on the extreme rare times, I even expressed a view about anything. The colleges are still pushing the poison, for jobs and everything else. So gross, and so stupid. All we have to do is look around to know it's a miserable failure and has spawned hell, look at all the kids getting severe problems now, it's ruined human immunity on multiple layers.
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ReplyDelete"I respect the fact that Dr. Campbell was willing to change his mind on this by following the data. It was hard having to experience the same emotions/stress in 2020 that he and others are now experiencing in 2022. Back then I had a mental breakdown in part due to what I could see happening and in part because of how isolated I felt going against what all of the people around me strongly believed. I thought I would want to scream 'I TOLD YOU SO!!!' from the rooftops once the rest of the world started to catch up. But I really don't. The entire situation is just sad. Watching people in my social network getting sick from the jabs and still struggling with health issues today is really hard. As cruel as they were toward me back then, I don't enjoy seeing them hurt."
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"If someone accuses you of wearing a tinfoil hat, tell them it's better than a bindfold!".
Comment #3
"The best part of being a Conspiracy Theorist is not having myocarditis!"
Chelle, I'm seeing scary stuff. I was on a Zoom where someone was talking, we were doing a craft so it was loose conversation and nothing they said made sense, I'm seeing that, where their thoughts are not coherent. I feel like I've already lost a bunch of people, who are "still here" though I believe the "death tsunami" as Tenpenny calls it on a recent rumble video may be just getting started. That's hard that you had a mental breakdown, well my mental health is under pressure, I am so isolated outside of a few 'awake' friends and husband, people to me are so far gone embracing and accepting all this evil, I feel like puking every day. I have a friend now who is constantly sick, and even wondered if she died but she got a message through to me she is in a facility, all this from this poison, that they keep pushing. I don't like people getting sick either and yeah some were mean to me and invalidated what I said. I worry I didn't speak out enough in real life but I was mocked and ignored by the ones I did try to talk to. I'm having a hard time dealing with people in they either act like none of this is happening or are so brainwashed they think constant illness is normal. The medical world is crashing and I'm facing some real life ramifications from that. I may be signing up with a new "functional" doctor to make sure I have a doctor who is still alive and "with it". I am seeing changes in them that scare me. I have the feeling a lot of the jabbed I know aren't talking about their health problems, they did a little like at UU church but people now just fade away. I'm kind of fading away. What is there to talk about? They ruined so much. Great comments. I'm glad I am a conspiracy theorist, I've had a life where trusting authority would have meant I would have been dead several times over. I'm glad I didn't trust the bastards.
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DeleteNo, I didn't have a mental breakdown, thank goodness. That was one of the three comments made by others on Dr. Campbell's comment board.
I am going to start looking at people here more closely. I honestly just pop in and out to get whatever, or run whatever errand. But I am having a small issue with my new dermatologist. She only comes to our province one day a week, in the afternoon, after she has already seen a half days' worth of patients in the main province. She has told me how tired she is on both occasions, last time right before she was to remove a lesion for biopsy with a scalpel. She told me on the visit before to be sure to call and remind her to bring the right size punch biopsy tools for our appointment, said she had a lot going on in her head. She has told me on both occasions about her blood pressure suddenly dropping, and now I'm starting to think about it. She has given the excuse of having mouth surgery and missing another couple appointments we had made.
She didn't end up using the two punch biopsies for the one lesion as we had agreed on. Don't know if she forgot them, or thought better of it. Came out better on her end economically for sure. But she was suppose to call me back with the results of the biopsy. I was not worried in this case, but it is within inches of a previous melanoma scar and on top of some infiltrative b-cell carcinoma. 5 weeks went by and no phonecall. I drove there on her day to arrive, told her I was in the vicinity and wanted to pick up the histopathology report. She wasn't there, was coming on a Saturday instead. Would leave it with a receptionist on the bottom floor. Also, when I pushed for the details, she said she was going to call the pathologist, to call her right back.
None of it made sense. I wonder if she was so tired that day she left it in the office? Don't know, but I'm feeling the "my whole family has come down with covid, hence the five week delay speach" a little weak to be sure. I am beginning to think she may be vaccine injured and not know it. Maybe she has POTS. This subject has not come up here in this country that I am aware. I did hear a friend describe her neighbor as being spaced out with heavy nuerological symptoms after vaccination.
What you are seeing sounds super scary. I have heard talk from some doctors about an auto immune response which could come about similar to mad cow disease. This is speculation at this point, and needs more data.
Even seems like some celebs and people known to us on tv don't seem to have the same personality or hold the same views anymore. I remember back when I enjoyed Joy Behar, on the view. I thought she seemed like a no nonsense New Yorker. Now she's full of nothing but. Dave Rubin, who I also foloow has seen it too. He use to live in the same building as her, use to say hello and pet her dog. Can't understand what has happened to her either. Some are like not even the same people. It's wierd. See if I gave "broke the bank" here, or if it will go through.
Chelle
Hi Chelle,
DeleteOh it wasn't you having the nervous breakdown but the vaxxed. Thanks for clarifying that. I have read TOO about the vaxxed having breakdowns and not only physical problems but mental ones including worsening of previous psychiatric disorders. one I keep seeing is when they get BAD anxiety disorders, and these are people who never before had that. I think bad health and anxiety goes together. When you can't breathe and body is breaking down, anxiety is the outcome. Ugh I had an panic attack yesterday, it sucks, good thing I stayed away from the poison, just keeping my anxiety disorders in check is hard, and this was triggered by being in a line, too many people, treated like cattle. The modern world sucks. Your dermatologist does seem bad off, oh that's a complaint I heard from SEVERAL who stopped at #1-2 about how tired it made them feel and most of these were healthy active people. The clot shots seem to ruin just basic heart regulation, speed up, slow down, the body is thrown off kilter. They are friggin monsters not to remove that garbage from the market. You may have to call her to find out results. With doctors now especially ones who have been vaxxed, check after them. I am worried they are NOT keeping up, the shots have mentally and physically affected them. I may go see this functional doctor as a "back up" doctor, don't know how Medicare will respond but I find myself wondering if he has more possibility of higher functioning as the rest of them fall apart physically and mentally. She's probably barely keeping it together, and a lot of them are in denial. I sometimes think of just saying to my doctor, that stuff is killing people. They forced it on health care professionals the most too.
POTS I have read is very common. Honestly when the vaxxed complain about their various health problems it always sounds like an autoimmune storm to me, like their bodies are basically crumbling. It's like the hell I went through in some ways. With POTS I'm not diagnosed with that one but I think about times years ago when I would just puke from the stress of going to work, and all the breathing issues, and rest. Their bodies are in complete dysregulation.
Yeah I am scared, and no one is talking about anything. The Zoom groups I'm in, the people are all dulled out, and no one is addressing life as it is, not even the high prices where you think some people would complain. Their personalities seem so dulled out and compliant. I had this weird dream, where the shots were lobotomies, this dream had Rosemary Kennedy in it, that was disturbing as hell. I'm noticing changes in people. Now I am very isolated so this is all Zoom contact stuff, but that "spark" stuff seems to worsen the more they take.
That's scary if Joy Behar has changed, would not surprise me, maybe I should go pay attention to some celebs--and see how they changed too. So many of them are "dying suddenly", I ask everyday why people haven't woke the F up yet.
Hi Peeps,
ReplyDeleteSorry about not making it clearer here about who was speaking above, I neglected to put (#1) on the first comment, making it seem like it was (me) doing the commenting. I had some help here today, which had me a little distracted.
Chelle
Thanks for telling me, understand, it doesn't take much of a distraction especially online.
DeleteHey Peeps, thanks for the channel, will definately order that book. Just searched online for my youngest sister, the Golden Child. Too painful, I'm thrown back into that family system with out even seeing them. A younger brother died, probably from the clot shots in the Spring, I sent sympathy cards to three brothers but not the sisters, heard NOTHING from them. 7 months later an older brother sent me a Halloween card with no mention of our siblings death, not any condolence. I had sent them condolence cards, as always they don't have to reciprocate with me. I couldn't believe my oldest brother left me a phone message about this brother's death. . Since they couldn't be bothered to tell me when my father died many years ago. It's very painful to be treated so badly by one's one family as you know. but we just put our shoes on and keep on keeping on with out the abusers. But they're still in my head and it hurts my heart that they rejected me and hate me. When I'm in difficult situaitons when ones family would supposedly be there , nope, nothing. Radio Silence Why do I still want these bastards to love and accept me? They have proven that they are toxic over and over again. Have not seen this sister in 31 years. Narc mother still alive and controlling them all at 90 years. they are all doing very well financially and own a resturaunt. Never experiences any hard times ever,. Closed hearted hypocrites keeping all the secrets, they hate me for talking about the abuse. The video is good and I'll look at her website. thanks again. Keep up the good work. You're the bomb. (in a good way)
ReplyDeleteI hope you find healing .you deserve every good thing and you deserve every happiness in the world.
HI Thrown Away Daughter. Yeah I'm planning to order that book and the other one. Be careful of those online searches, hey I've been guilty in the past. For me even searching for the more neutrals was painful too. None of them cared I was gone. I don't think many of mine have died from Covid or the clot shots yet, though I think most likely most signed up for the shots, they were system believers. I do know brother got vaxx from friend [at least #1] due to her seeing his profile picture on Facebook and it had the "I got vaccinated logo". They weren't the type to research anything. How young was your brother? Was he one of those younger people the clot shots took out? Maybe your older brother got a flash of conscience. Am surprised none of mine died of Delta, never were the types to take precautions, but I guess some could be deceased and I simply don't know it. That's awful you sent sympathy cards and they ignored them. Yeah not being told about your father's death is terrible too. I've been no contact so long, there's no way to get information, but ones you have limited contact with should at least act like human beings to you. I understand the "Still in your head" thing trust me on that. Feel for you. Mine faded a bit with time, time helps, but even then, I'm dealing lately with the fact everyone around here talks about their families even 80 year olds with their cousins and siblings who are happily part of their lives [all I got were these jerks who refused me even when I was around] and it can be very triggering. Sometimes I even wonder if I ever will feel completely free. Some of that stuff does ebb down with time though. I was crying to husband other day, it had to do with Covid, and realizing how isolated life has gotten outside of internet friends [have 2 local friends and other acquaintances] and was saying am I going to pay for having a jerk family for the rest of my life, and that the people who should be in my life aren't there. So yeah understand. I think in my case, I too suffered wanting their love and acceptance, so understand that too, but I did eventually move to a place where I don't want it. I don't miss them but miss the people who SHOULD have been there. Hope this makes sense. I think of the years I tried so hard to get them to love or care about me or even have them notice I was alive. Sad memories here of making all these art projects and going on family trips, I could not afford or dallying with getting sick on. Sad to hear your NM is still at it. This may shock people but I STILL Get hoovered 10 years later. Like nothing has changed. Groundhog day or something you know. There's no apologies or personal appeals, it's all written like a business card, two lines "I want to see you" sometimes written to OTHER people. Creepy thing about narcs, sociopaths, psychopaths etc, is they never change.
DeleteMine are all rich too as you know. I find myself wondering if Covid even touched them. Maybe some are connected enough to know the antidote or get shots of saline. Some of mine were sick but none of them ever wanted for a dollar in their life. So know how that goes. That has to be difficult too. So many restaurants closed during Covid too, but sure their's survived.
Thanks for your good wishes, all the best to you too.
Saw a youtube video on why no one believes the scapegoat. First question was what kind of family needs a scapegoat? Wow. No family "needs" a scapegoat. In a decent family everyone is loved and accepted for themselves.
ReplyDeleteHi Thrown Away Daughter, Yeah no one believes the scapegoats because of all the smear campaigns. It's true what kind of family needs a scapegoat but a dysfunctional one. I agree decent families don't scapegoat too!
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