Fat People Hating Medical Workers on Reddit

 

                                                      "I had a 600lber just last week!"

Check out this thread, it's scary. The reddit nursing board has problems, they ban anyone who questions the vaxxes or what is happening now but overall, you can see it's open war on fat people. Even "leftists" who are against racism, homophobia, etc have no moral qualms in going after the fat with no holds barred.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nursing/comments/yac3bw/an_open_rant_to_a_supermorbid_obese_patient/

"Supermorbid obesity is absolutely a mental illness. To consume enough calories to be 400+ lbs is an eating disorder. I don’t discount that.

But how is it fair to burden the medical team with your care? 4+ nurses lifting your body, risking injury to themselves. A body you created with no consideration for the others who care for you.

You can’t walk so 4+ nurses have to pull you over and put a bedpan under you. Your shits are massive and frequent because you eat so much.

You can’t wipe yourself, and your gluteals are so huge they have to be spread open to clean your anus. The size of your gluteals means the shit smears and gets trapped in the cheeks as it leaves your body. More for your nurse to wipe.

You haven’t been able to bathe properly in a long time, so you smell. The fungal rashes under your many folds smell putrid. More for your nurse to clean.

We teach you about diet and exercise, but when the dietary person comes you order 3 peoples worth of food. Your husband brings you bags of candy and snacks. You yelled at him because he brought Mike and Ike’s when you clearly asked for Now and Laters.

How is it fair to our already understaffed unit that we need to accommodate your self-created burden?

On top of it, you’re rude to staff. Extremely demanding and shout because it hurts you to be rolled to your side, demanding we “HURRY UP”

I would never tell you to your face, but nurses let out a sigh when they see their name next to your room. All the men who work on the floor know they’re going to be called every time you need to shit.

I hope you get the help you need. The help we need.

Edit; thank you to whomever reported this post as a mental health emergency, you could’ve just downvoted :)

Edit 2: wow top 25 on r/popular, thats neat. Sorry it's marked as "nsfw" which means people browsing dont get to look at it without a reddit account which is ridiculous (shoutout to r/watchredditdie).

Final edit: a special thank you to the people who can’t comment here so they are finding other comments I made and replying there to call me a fatphobe and a piece of shit. I literally don’t care about your opinion, 12,700 upvotes, 18+ awards and frontpage status is enough to prove that the overwhelming majority of reddit is in agreement with the content of my post. Perhaps seeing so many reddit clinicians posting in agreement is a shock to your ego? Maybe you were expecting the typically-tolerant reddit user base to tear me apart and are now appealed to find out the truth.

If you are overweight I will absolutely give you the same level of care I give to every patient, and I will greet you with a smile and pretend I don’t care that you smell awful and need me to exert 400% of my strength to move you. But inside I will have the opinion that thousands of others have posted here."

Then read this post which was a response.

"[–]FaeryCourt 1 point 2 days ago 

Asa paramedic -who has had to call firefighters and off duty police officers -in order to simply be able to lift a morbidly obese patient(s) from bed to stretcher; who has listened to Children worry and cry that they had to call 911 on their parent because they couldn't lift 400+lbs by themselves and knew they would be punished and blamed for doing so; who has had injuries from these patients (who blame everyone but themselves), who has seen coworkers go through YEARS of physical therapy and surgical interventions from injuries sustained, who has seen-repeatedley-these patients not give one fuck about who they injure, emotionally destroy and blame for their CHOICES, I agree, wholeheartedly with this fine nurse, who finally said what WE ALL ARE THINKING. Thank you, RN. Your words mean much. And, for the family, children and spouses of these patients, my heart breaks for you.

Notice they all write it's a choice. Like everyone is supposed to have a body that works right.  You won't see these people complaining about other people who end up at the hospital via drinking or high extreme sports or drugs. I'm tired of being told it's all a choice. Who would CHOOSE to live in the hell of extreme obesity?

Of course none of them ask why is the care for the obese so lacking? Why don't they have better methods for transfers? Some of the more compassionate ones, talk about the abuse and high ACE scores many superfat people went through. One mentioned Lipedema and women with legs as wide as their waist.

This applies to me of course. I don't think all of it is food addiction though, some are of course but some of us probably ended up with hypothyalmic and metabolic damage as a result. You know there's a problem when someone has so many autoimmune diseases they lost count, and have some people never heard of before. Very few question what drives the food addicted ones to eat or what is happening in the brain or what kind of depression or mental problems could be fueling all this. But what about ones who aren't food addicted, who may have undiagnosed Cushings, severe Lipedema, and other endocrine problems who aren't getting help? What about those with other disorders?  People like this aren't going to help them get answers.

Sadly superfat people are being dehumanized and look, at a nursing board, where it becomes a popular post. The open "othering" of a people for a physical characteristic is accepted. Hatred of fat people was obviously growing as we saw with Covid and they told us fat people were more likely to die of it. Maybe that's true but then keep in mind all the "triage" stuff they were pushing in 2020.

One thing they put a barrier in front of people at every step. I've made it clear I want in-patient treatment now for obesity even to get 100 off. Medicare would never pay for it. Because of Covid, I'm no longer pushing the point.  I remain pissed off beyond belief, that I can't go safely back to my old Planet Fitness in the eternal pandemic without end.  I need to. These are barriers that are never addressed? Why didn't these people get help before their obesity become so serious? I remember asking for help at 300lbs before I hit 700lbs.

Did any of these 500-800lb people already go to their doctors about their weight loss failures or lack the money to make some of the things they needed to happen? How many like me went crying about their extreme weights already?

Where they turned away as their problems got worse and worse? Remember I was 700lbs at one point and almost did die. I thankfully did not lose mobility but I was close. Today my mobility is in bad trouble but some outside factors are affecting this. I am dealing with some muscle weakness that could be due to one of my autoimmune disorders and some joint problems. I can't take Planequil for my UCTD because I fear eye problems being deaf, so here I am in pain a lot. The other day I asked my rheumatologist for other remedies for pain and fatigue and was just turned down. I told the doctor point blank, "I can barely function now due to the severity of the deafness I can't take that risk on." I don't think he was happy with me but why were there no other options? At least I am still considered "Stable" and I didn't go into full lupus but the pain and other problems are there. Why is it okay to make me at the risk of being even more helpless with no life quality left especially being an artist?

I could always walk when I was in the hospital, and even walked myself into the shower once while hooked to an IV because nurses wouldn't clean me up or give me tools to clean myself up. I told them due to my skin problems I need a shower daily and was ignored. So I took care of business. I knew if I didn't keep clean that I would die of the infection I had.  Probably some of you have figured out I am not a passive personality, I can't afford to be. 

I haven't been in the hospital overnight since 2001. The house call doctors kept me out, there's been a few ER visits for injuries, parotitis and problem I got with my better ear.  I wrote a PM to this person, telling them "I hope I never get you as a nurse and this is why I took 30 years to get diagnosed with stage 4 Lipedema". and "Stop abusing fat people".

Hospitals scare the hell out of me, I have to be dying or have serious problems like a broken bone to go to one. The line now where I would even go to one? I have to be nearly dead or acutely dying. Even then I may think about staying home just like I did with multitudes of kidney stones, drinking watered down organic cider vinegar in a bid to stay alive. Most of us superfat people already know hospitals are not friendly kind places for us. Some medical professionals are kind and nice to us but we have been around to know the score and how we are "seen"

Sad to say I figured out this person is probably a moderator over on My Big Fat Fabulous Life, [different identities online] or if not an avid supporter of this fat hating nurse, and they started writing more insults to me on that reddit message board about supersized patients being so hard to take care of.  And I got banned from that board even though I had posts people liked reading and I got a lot of "reddit karma" for.  This person who claims to be "happy" sure seems to spend a lot of time complaining about fat people. I criticized Whitney too but wanted her to change her show to HELP fat people but sadly Whitney was just the usual corporate "make fat people look bad" product. They tried banning me so I wrote a complaint about all these posts to reddit, and asked them if they are trying to revive the same attitudes of the Fat Hate Reddit board that was later taken down.

It was scary to see hundreds of medical professionals all bitching about super-fat people on that thread. There was only around 5-6 compassionate ones among the 1,000 posts decrying the horrors of caring for severely overweight people. 

As I have written on here before, no one crosses the 400lb mark without something being even physiologically wrong with them. Physically normal people would not even have driving hunger or desire for that much food. The 800lb mark and above, that's pretty much the case. BTW they don't care if your weight is from fluids, fat or the other complicated myriad of reasons why someone would have gotten that fat in the first place. Too many of these lauded professionals aren't studying the latest obesity research that talks about problems with metabolism or hyperphagia or saitety disorders. They don't care, they consider it YOUR FAULT and that you did nothing with yourself but pig out on everything and it supposedly was all by choice. One reason I always wanted hospitalized for weight loss was to have the "eating seen" but maybe I'd be called a liar and told I was "sneaking food in" even if I was not. 

Lately I have been thinking about how I have been treated my whole life for being fat and how bad it is. I worked around things the best way I could trying to speak out and do art and be involved in community stuff but you always KNOW. "You are not like the others" and at supersized weights it's even worse.  Even if you cut all the abusers out of your life, and manage to get enough presence to stop all overt abuse--it's been years since someone insulted me in the street--it doesn't stop the subtle stuff or the endless strain of rejection that remains "hidden".  Some liberals may refer to those as "micro-aggressions". After my no contact I changed. Oh I told this nurse, if I ever got her as a nurse, I'd call the ombudsman and then my lawyer.

I wouldn't yell at anyone especially while overnight in a hospital even if they were being horrible to me. I'd be figuring out how to work my way out of the problem. I don't like that I have to lay there with an unlocked door which always destroys sleep for me. Sleep deprivation is a very serious problem for me in the hospital. I begged a doctor to go home more then once so I could stay alive but of course past serious infections needed IV antibiotics. Some of the people who are shouting and freaking out, have been neglected or having pain or problems.

 One of my now deceased fat friends said she was abandoned to lay on gurney in the corner for 16 hours. In her case, she couldn't walk out. This was pre-Covid days. Many of us chronically ill know what hospitals can be like.  I would be the type to sneak out if they were actively hurting me even if I had to pay a bystander with 20 bucks to give me a wheelchair to roll out in if I was unable to walk and then go call a lawyer. Fortunately I haven't had any abuses that severe.   

Years ago when a good doctor showed up at 3am to save my life and get a working IV, I almost had made the decision to go home.  This wasn't abuse, just more likely collapsed veins from illness in that case. Most hospitals have treated me okay, at most I got benign neglect when I had to talk a janitor lady into helping me with a few problems. I would say the most dangerous times for the superfat is if you a] can't walk or b] are unconscious. 

Looks like I wasn't being too paranoid with those thoughts given the posts above......

Years ago I got a thick skin. Hate my blog? I don't care. Hate me for being fat? Get in line with the other jerks. It's nothing new. I know I'm a rare one who speaks out and they hate that even more. See any other fat people calling this crap out? I will because I feel like it. To me, this reddit post and it's acceptance points to some real rot in society that is growing worse. The severe obesity too? People are getting sick, physically and emotionally and superfat people are probably canaries in the coal mine. Sure some are BED food addicts but even there, the limited attitudes and stupidity shown except by the very few compassionate ones was nauseating.

By the way this is just the kind of society, where people even young ones can start dropping like flies of myocarditis and blood clots, and no one cares....

"FaeryCourt and I got in an argument. They were even angry at me for questioning the "elite" which was kind of laughable to me. There's a reason psychopathic nurses has become a trope in horror movies. Yes why wouldn't they believe in this sick system being a product of it? But sadly this body I deal with is a product of the system, with ill health, destroyed metabolism, endocrine system, lymph system. I just read the book, "The Body Keeps The Score" and I KNOW this was NOT my Choice ever. This book details how trauma and medical/autoimmune/mental problems interact. I had myself in therapy by age 18--self chosen. I always tried to get help and to stay alive and "be responsible" so I am done with taking people's crap. 

It's horrible for these immobile fat people who are dependent on medical professionals who despise them. Instead of anyone asking why aren't there better lifting machines or hoyers or other procedures or even why no one is doing anything that actually WORKS for the severe growing obesity problem in the US. Decent food is hard to find or whatever environmental problems are leading to this including the endless trauma, they blame the patients instead. "It's their fault, my back went out!" There's  thousands of drug and alcohol abuse clinics but nothing for the fat beyond weight loss surgery. Ever wonder about that?

I worked with the disabled for a very short term job, I had it around 8 months. I was pushed out of this job from my own failing health unable to do lifts.  Some patients were large we had to move around, I had to move people in beds to change diapers, etc, I had to puree food, do bathroom duties, and feed people with a plastic spoon. The work is NOT easy. I get that part. There is risk of injuries. Most of these places because of corporate greed are understaffed and most of these medical professionals are having to work with too few co-workers to help them with lifts and more. So I have empathy for the ones who did get injuries, it's horrific but don't blame the patients and take it out on them. 

 It's not meant for everyone but this post scares me and all the angry people, and sure some of the patients are probably guilty in their fear and other problems in yelling a bit or taking things out on people they should not, but this post to me was representative of a very serious problem. 

Severe obesity is growing, I used to be RARE where I never saw anyone my size in the 1990s. Now I see more and more people near my size. 500lbs may still be uncommon but I see people near my size at least once a week if I am out and about. [My weight was 511 last week] I saw someone who weighed about 50 pounds more then me just three days ago. 300-400lbs is actually common now. Go in a store, you'll see a few and a 400lber here and there. Obesity has increased. Now let me ask this question, how are any of these people's attitudes going to help the problem?